HOLY CARPS YOUR RIGHT!🤯🤯🤯

Love listening to your work each week and see all the effort you put into it

HOLY CARPS YOUR RIGHT!🤯🤯🤯 Love listening to your work each week and see all the effort you put into it

nailed the sludgy percussive metal!! Mix sounds great. Guitars sounding goooooooood

nailed the sludgy percussive metal!! Mix sounds great. Guitars sounding goooooooood

The chugging riffs and dueling leads go insane! So sick.

The chugging riffs and dueling leads go insane! So sick.

Mix sounds great to my ears. Hard and loud. This rocks.

Mix sounds great to my ears. Hard and loud. This rocks.

Killer. Love especially the "clanky" distorted bass.

Excellent job.

Killer. Love especially the "clanky" distorted bass. :) Excellent job.

Personally I can get behind some subgenres of frog. This went big. Sludge achieved. Feeling right at home in the mud pond.

Personally I can get behind some subgenres of frog. This went big. Sludge achieved. Feeling right at home in the mud pond.

that label is absolutely absurd i want a print of it 🤣

killer track though, that heavy distorted bass with the synth is so cool. mastering is nice too, i think the riffs hit hard ❤️

that label is absolutely absurd i want a print of it 🤣 killer track though, that heavy distorted bass with the synth is so cool. mastering is nice too, i think the riffs hit hard ❤️

The frog strikes again!

The stereo width at the beginning is cool. And this is definitely the least muddy mix I heard from you. Up to the point that it might be a bit too light sounding, especially in the drums. The snare is just noise without any impact. And though I can hear and feel the kick, I think it could use a bit more volume. But overall I think you've made a lot of progress! And I think you're heading in the right direction. Just a little bit of fine tuning.

About metal drums. They sometimes use samples. And they've been doing that since the 90s. Lots of famous bands/records have used them. Metallica, Nirvana and Rage Against The Machine, to name a few. Triggered by the original recording. Sometimes augmenting the recorded drums. Sometimes totally replacing the drums. But it can be an invaluable tool to getting those hard hitting metal drums. So you still get the feeling of the original drummer. But you get a perfectly crafted sound. That can be tuned perfectly to the different sections of your track. There are various drum replacement VSTs out there. Worth investigating. As it can take your mixes to the next level.

Musically this a nice track. I like the vibe, I like the mood. Good stuff. Another melodic theme would have been nice, indeed. Anyway, looking forward to more frogcore!

The frog strikes again! The stereo width at the beginning is cool. And this is definitely the least muddy mix I heard from you. Up to the point that it might be a bit too light sounding, especially in the drums. The snare is just noise without any impact. And though I can hear and feel the kick, I think it could use a bit more volume. But overall I think you've made a lot of progress! And I think you're heading in the right direction. Just a little bit of fine tuning. About metal drums. They sometimes use samples. And they've been doing that since the 90s. Lots of famous bands/records have used them. Metallica, Nirvana and Rage Against The Machine, to name a few. Triggered by the original recording. Sometimes augmenting the recorded drums. Sometimes totally replacing the drums. But it can be an invaluable tool to getting those hard hitting metal drums. So you still get the feeling of the original drummer. But you get a perfectly crafted sound. That can be tuned perfectly to the different sections of your track. There are various drum replacement VSTs out there. Worth investigating. As it can take your mixes to the next level. Musically this a nice track. I like the vibe, I like the mood. Good stuff. Another melodic theme would have been nice, indeed. Anyway, looking forward to more frogcore!

Right? This year is absolutely flying. And thank you! I've been learning a lot from the community this year, been trying to put more into practice

Thanks! Actually went back to my tele clone for this, rather than the SG - I think it has a clarity that just helps it *cut*.

Thank you! I love harmonized leads - I think it goes back to my earliest metal experiences, listening to Judas Priest.

I'm pretty sure that those harmonies are an essential part of FrogCore

Thank you! I did a crash course on Sunday morning with mixing bass and kick, and then some basic final mastering. I'm glad it worked, I was pretty certain I was getting ear fatigue by the end of it but had no time to stop

Thank you!! That's my Glarry jazz bass, got it specifically so I could do some harder edged rock tones - I play mostly fretless otherwise. Still using the Moonn bass amp sim from Stomptones, my go-to for a few weeks now. It breaks up *so* nicely.

And a new genre has officially been born

Thank you! Glad it was muddy and sludgey in a good musical way. I did a lot of work to avoid the 200-400Hz mud range

Isn't that tag wild? Imagining bags sitting on people's front porches for collection...and then going to the local incinerator.

Thank you for the mastering comment, especially considering how amazing your tracks always sound I learned a lot this week as far as how to approach it by hand - not over-compressing, and making surgical cuts for clarity. Looking forward to trying it more.

I was 100% thinking about previous comments you've made as I mixed this. Doubled guitars are panned HARD left and right, and echoes are adding to width as well. Reverbs reduced to keep down on the mud. I mentioned the second melodic theme because I knew it was something you'd say ....ways to vary and keep interest as the song goes on. Even if I don't have time to add parts, I like that I'm mindful of it now.

I did a LOT of work shaping the kick and bass here - working on adjusting the sidechain so the bass doesn't vanish when the kick comes in. It's a balancing act! I'm still using the Logic session drummer, but I converted to MIDI and broke the kick out to its own line so I could treat it more. Along with an EQ curve, I gated it to give it some more separation, used a sub-bass boost (Bark of Dog by Boz Digital), and used a high-pass ChromaGlow to add saturation to upper frequencies. I'm learning more places to use saturation to help things cut and glue.

I'm going to do the same kind of thing on the snare in the future - break it to its own line so I can give it its own treatment. It was left to the original lines, so it didn't get nearly the snap it could. Something to work on in the future!

My drums start out as MIDI, so there's not much triggering off a performance to do   That said, I went in and did some tuning on the samples in the kit I used - added gain, dropped the pitch. I'm thinking more about drums than I ever have before, I'll keep working on it.

Only a quarter of the way through the year, and I feel like I've made a LOT of progress. Thank you so much for your thoughts and suggestions!

[quote=b bro]HOLY CARPS YOUR RIGHT!🤯🤯🤯 Love listening to your work each week and see all the effort you put into it[/quote] Right? This year is absolutely flying. And thank you! I've been learning a lot from the community this year, been trying to put more into practice :) [quote=SQF]nailed the sludgy percussive metal!! Mix sounds great. Guitars sounding goooooooood[/quote] Thanks! Actually went back to my tele clone for this, rather than the SG - I think it has a clarity that just helps it *cut*. [quote=0x_colt]The chugging riffs and dueling leads go insane! So sick. [/quote] Thank you! I love harmonized leads - I think it goes back to my earliest metal experiences, listening to Judas Priest. I'm pretty sure that those harmonies are an essential part of FrogCore :D :D :D [quote=bobbyd]Mix sounds great to my ears. Hard and loud. This rocks.[/quote] Thank you! I did a crash course on Sunday morning with mixing bass and kick, and then some basic final mastering. I'm glad it worked, I was pretty certain I was getting ear fatigue by the end of it but had no time to stop :) [quote=djippy]Killer. Love especially the "clanky" distorted bass. :) Excellent job.[/quote] Thank you!! That's my Glarry jazz bass, got it specifically so I could do some harder edged rock tones - I play mostly fretless otherwise. Still using the Moonn bass amp sim from Stomptones, my go-to for a few weeks now. It breaks up *so* nicely. [quote=FrogCity]Personally I can get behind some subgenres of frog. This went big. Sludge achieved. Feeling right at home in the mud pond.[/quote] And a new genre has officially been born :D Thank you! Glad it was muddy and sludgey in a good musical way. I did a lot of work to avoid the 200-400Hz mud range :) [quote=MaisieMarra]that label is absolutely absurd i want a print of it 🤣 killer track though, that heavy distorted bass with the synth is so cool. mastering is nice too, i think the riffs hit hard ❤️[/quote] Isn't that tag wild? Imagining bags sitting on people's front porches for collection...and then going to the local incinerator. Thank you for the mastering comment, especially considering how amazing your tracks always sound <3 I learned a lot this week as far as how to approach it by hand - not over-compressing, and making surgical cuts for clarity. Looking forward to trying it more. [quote=electronic_tiger]The frog strikes again! The stereo width at the beginning is cool. And this is definitely the least muddy mix I heard from you. Up to the point that it might be a bit too light sounding, especially in the drums. The snare is just noise without any impact. And though I can hear and feel the kick, I think it could use a bit more volume. But overall I think you've made a lot of progress! And I think you're heading in the right direction. Just a little bit of fine tuning. About metal drums. They sometimes use samples. And they've been doing that since the 90s. Lots of famous bands/records have used them. Metallica, Nirvana and Rage Against The Machine, to name a few. Triggered by the original recording. Sometimes augmenting the recorded drums. Sometimes totally replacing the drums. But it can be an invaluable tool to getting those hard hitting metal drums. So you still get the feeling of the original drummer. But you get a perfectly crafted sound. That can be tuned perfectly to the different sections of your track. There are various drum replacement VSTs out there. Worth investigating. As it can take your mixes to the next level. Musically this a nice track. I like the vibe, I like the mood. Good stuff. Another melodic theme would have been nice, indeed. Anyway, looking forward to more frogcore![/quote] I was 100% thinking about previous comments you've made as I mixed this. Doubled guitars are panned HARD left and right, and echoes are adding to width as well. Reverbs reduced to keep down on the mud. I mentioned the second melodic theme because I knew it was something you'd say :D ....ways to vary and keep interest as the song goes on. Even if I don't have time to add parts, I like that I'm mindful of it now. I did a LOT of work shaping the kick and bass here - working on adjusting the sidechain so the bass doesn't vanish when the kick comes in. It's a balancing act! I'm still using the Logic session drummer, but I converted to MIDI and broke the kick out to its own line so I could treat it more. Along with an EQ curve, I gated it to give it some more separation, used a sub-bass boost (Bark of Dog by Boz Digital), and used a high-pass ChromaGlow to add saturation to upper frequencies. I'm learning more places to use saturation to help things cut and glue. I'm going to do the same kind of thing on the snare in the future - break it to its own line so I can give it its own treatment. It was left to the original lines, so it didn't get nearly the snap it could. Something to work on in the future! My drums start out as MIDI, so there's not much triggering off a performance to do :) That said, I went in and did some tuning on the samples in the kit I used - added gain, dropped the pitch. I'm thinking more about drums than I ever have before, I'll keep working on it. Only a quarter of the way through the year, and I feel like I've made a LOT of progress. Thank you so much for your thoughts and suggestions!

Telecasters are beasts, noisy beasts but for sure it cuts and can rock.

Love the production tips you put here on your comments, taking some notes... (It is difficult to have distorted bass, having a kick that cuts but is not too clicky (I really am not a fan of that sound), etc...)

Great track again.

Telecasters are beasts, noisy beasts but for sure it cuts and can rock. Love the production tips you put here on your comments, taking some notes... (It is difficult to have distorted bass, having a kick that cuts but is not too clicky (I really am not a fan of that sound), etc...) Great track again.

I really didn't understand the Cult of Telecaster until I bought a cheap one on a whim. I get it now! So versatile.

Glad you're enjoying the tech details - sometimes I post and I'm like, geez, I wrote a novel I think the act of writing them here helps me solidify what I did in my mind...and if someone else benefits, even better! I learn so much at Weekly Beats. I keep saying it - best community ever.

[quote=djippy]Telecasters are beasts, noisy beasts but for sure it cuts and can rock. Love the production tips you put here on your comments, taking some notes... (It is difficult to have distorted bass, having a kick that cuts but is not too clicky (I really am not a fan of that sound), etc...) Great track again.[/quote] I really didn't understand the Cult of Telecaster until I bought a cheap one on a whim. I get it now! So versatile. Glad you're enjoying the tech details - sometimes I post and I'm like, geez, I wrote a novel :) I think the act of writing them here helps me solidify what I did in my mind...and if someone else benefits, even better! I learn so much at Weekly Beats. I keep saying it - best community ever.

My pleasure! And indeed, it's good to be mindful of options, even if you don't implement them (yet). Composition, mixing and playing music is a skill that improves the more you do it. And I wholeheartedly agree, you've made a lot of progress already!

Ah, you're working with midi. That makes it even easier. As you can copy the midi data for the kick. And trigger a different, small click sound with it. Which can yield better results than aggressively EQ'ing the main kick. You can drive that click sound from the original kick if you're so inclined. Or layer in other sounds. And same is true for all the drum sounds. If they're not cutting it, augment them, change them and/or replace them. There are no rules.

Don't get me wrong, side-chain compression is a powerful tool. But you'll get the best results when there is space for the different elements. So that the bass and kick are occupying different frequency ranges. Or aren't playing at the same time. And yes, that requires making a choice. Who plays what range. There is no right or wrong answer. Whatever works for the song. But when they're not fighting each other and you use SC compression you can get really powerful sounding mixes. Like you said, it's a balancing act.

Anyway, Looking forward to what you'll have for us next week.

[quote=Paisleyfrog] [/quote] My pleasure! And indeed, it's good to be mindful of options, even if you don't implement them (yet). Composition, mixing and playing music is a skill that improves the more you do it. And I wholeheartedly agree, you've made a lot of progress already! Ah, you're working with midi. That makes it even easier. As you can copy the midi data for the kick. And trigger a different, small click sound with it. Which can yield better results than aggressively EQ'ing the main kick. You can drive that click sound from the original kick if you're so inclined. Or layer in other sounds. And same is true for all the drum sounds. If they're not cutting it, augment them, change them and/or replace them. There are no rules. Don't get me wrong, side-chain compression is a powerful tool. But you'll get the best results when there is space for the different elements. So that the bass and kick are occupying different frequency ranges. Or aren't playing at the same time. And yes, that requires making a choice. Who plays what range. There is no right or wrong answer. Whatever works for the song. But when they're not fighting each other and you use SC compression you can get really powerful sounding mixes. Like you said, it's a balancing act. Anyway, Looking forward to what you'll have for us next week.

So simple it's brilliant. I did parallel compression as well on the drums (both kit and kick lines), but adding in a sound that is exactly the nature of accent I need rather than shaping the full sound is awesome. Like buying a box of toothpicks rather than whittling a tree.

If it sounds good, it is good. No rules, and more tools for the toolbox!

[quote=electronic_tiger][quote=Paisleyfrog] [/quote] Ah, you're working with midi. That makes it even easier. As you can copy the midi data for the kick. And trigger a different, small click sound with it. Which can yield better results than aggressively EQ'ing the main kick. You can drive that click sound from the original kick if you're so inclined. Or layer in other sounds. And same is true for all the drum sounds. If they're not cutting it, augment them, change them and/or replace them. There are no rules. [/quote] So simple it's brilliant. I did parallel compression as well on the drums (both kit and kick lines), but adding in a sound that is exactly the nature of accent I need rather than shaping the full sound is awesome. Like buying a box of toothpicks rather than whittling a tree. :) If it sounds good, it is good. No rules, and more tools for the toolbox!

Amazing work. I'm a fan of frogcore and Dr Frog sounds very special.

Amazing work. I'm a fan of frogcore and Dr Frog sounds very special.

Hey, id software called, they want their Doom soundtrack back!

This is so satisfying. The synth against the guitars is a combination I personally really dig. I attempted stuff like this a few times during WB24 and this year, but your guitar chops are much much better than mine. If this is frogcore, sign me up to the fan club.

No notes, five stars.

Hey, id software called, they want their Doom soundtrack back! This is so satisfying. The synth against the guitars is a combination I personally really dig. I attempted stuff like this a few times during WB24 and this year, but your guitar chops are much much better than mine. If this is frogcore, sign me up to the fan club. No notes, five stars.

Holy Carps is right! \m/ Love the deep crunchy bass in this.  The guitars and drums sound great throughout.  Like I've been warped to a warehouse for a live performance.  Love when the sample introduces the heavy ending and has that ramp up.  Excellent work!

Holy Carps is right! \m/ Love the deep crunchy bass in this. The guitars and drums sound great throughout. Like I've been warped to a warehouse for a live performance. Love when the sample introduces the heavy ending and has that ramp up. Excellent work!

Thanks! And yes, she absolutely is. I won the lottery

Thank you The path to getting better at heavy music has been a long one...I made a lot of progress in '24, and I feel like I'm on the path to refining things this year. I first tried in 2013, and it was a flabby mess

I've been amusing myself trying to decide what frogcore would be...I did a track in '24 that was in theory Doom Metal, but was very much my interpretation. Harmonized guitars are always a part of any metal I do.

I'm feeling like frogcore is melodic sludge that sort of hops around. Like Kermit in the swamp singing Rainbow Connection

[quote=monstret]Amazing work. I'm a fan of frogcore and Dr Frog sounds very special. [/quote] Thanks! And yes, she absolutely is. I won the lottery :) [quote=RPLKTR]Hey, id software called, they want their Doom soundtrack back! This is so satisfying. The synth against the guitars is a combination I personally really dig. I attempted stuff like this a few times during WB24 and this year, but your guitar chops are much much better than mine. If this is frogcore, sign me up to the fan club. No notes, five stars.[/quote] Thank you <3 The path to getting better at heavy music has been a long one...I made a lot of progress in '24, and I feel like I'm on the path to refining things this year. I first tried in 2013, and it was a flabby mess :) I've been amusing myself trying to decide what frogcore would be...I did a track in '24 that was in theory Doom Metal, but was very much my interpretation. Harmonized guitars are always a part of any metal I do. I'm feeling like frogcore is melodic sludge that sort of hops around. Like Kermit in the swamp singing Rainbow Connection :)

Fuck yeah. That's all I got lol. This is awesome.

(And you already have more to read here than I've ever seen on WB and its only tuesday lol good work and good luck sir)

Fuck yeah. That's all I got lol. This is awesome. (And you already have more to read here than I've ever seen on WB and its only tuesday lol good work and good luck sir)

omg that label!!
your drums sound fantastic! really enjoyed

omg that label!! your drums sound fantastic! really enjoyed

Daaaamn 🔥

Daaaamn 🔥

holy CARPS and holy F R O G C O R E
total ripper. love that crunchy bass, and the harmonized gtr parts are so menacing  \m/

holy CARPS and holy F R O G C O R E total ripper. love that crunchy bass, and the harmonized gtr parts are so menacing \m/

the guitar is insane !!!! well done!

the guitar is insane !!!! well done!

This fucking ruuuuulesssss. Love the whole soundscape. Brilliant playing too.

This fucking ruuuuulesssss. Love the whole soundscape. Brilliant playing too. <3

Let's just call it metal, easy enough to remember, and all the brain power you need to jam to this.
- Spider

Let's just call it metal, easy enough to remember, and all the brain power you need to jam to this. - Spider