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To Hell and Back

By frogcity on March 3, 2024 11:57 pm

I spent significant time pushing my composition skill to new levels by working through some interesting exercises in deceptive chord progressions, energy control, and modal borrowing. I was inspired along the way to infuse these ideas (but starting in F# Phrygian) into a metal context. I now understand why this mode is used for riffs, especially leads well to atonal stuff, but not really great for progressions in pure Phrygian with that awkward v° in the way which leads to a weak closure in energy sound if trying to use it like a V. I now need to go back and listen to some classic metal Phrygian riffs to hear more closely how they did it. I know in a number of cases they borrow from pop/punk chords to create the movement before going back to the Phyrgian riffs, but that is more hand wavey than really understanding it all. A couple times I wanted to do a different pop style progression but forced myself to try to make pure Phrygian and v° work leaning heavily on the melody, and I liked the challenge of that. I also tried both the bII style cadence as well as borrowing from major and the subdominant. There’s some bits in here that were kind of magical that were nice to hear all together, such as the part where the chords speed up and the guitars speed up one at a time had a really nice effect to it (very short effect, just one bar).

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Shreds. Cool idea to make a short track and just dial some technical guitar and harmonies. Definitely a success. I feel like everyone’s weekly beats here usually have at LEAST one element that is really really cool. Continually amazed by what everyone is able to put together.

CC you probably know the guitar overpowers the drums. Maybe need some sidechaining or better EQ, not sure what the specific issue is.

I'll have to trust you on the theory side of this. Cool tune! Kinda like a combination of Extreme and VGM. I don't understand what makes it so, though. I agree with prophisee about the guitars overpowering drums a bit, but I think you should be reaching for a fader. Shhh don't tell him, but he has a co-dependency issue w/sidechaining wink.

Hell yeaaaaaaaahhhh! Reminds me of some of the faster types of songs Nightwish would do. Excellent harmonized leads!

Hell yeah! Golden Sun boss battle vibes for sure!

Sounds good and energetic! NWBHM vibes definitely.

My advice would be that when you're changing the root bass note, you're essentially in a new chord. You don't have to stick to your chosen scale for the entirety of the song. If v° gets in the way at some point, you can replace it. And voila, now you're playing jazz big_smile

Great song!  I love the triplet rhythm.  Feels epic, but also feels way too short!  You could expand this out into a 4 or 5 minute song real easy.

blighters_rock wrote:

Shhh don't tell him, but he has a co-dependency issue w/sidechaining wink.

lol, fader too ofc. Could be a genre thing I’ve watched so many tutorials where they use it very liberally and it does usually pass the “does it sound better” test. I’ve heard it called the defining sound of electronic music in the last decade. Always makes my drums pop but I’d guess it’s less effective with real drums doing real drum stuff.

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Shreds. Cool idea to make a short track and just dial some technical guitar and harmonies. Definitely a success. I feel like everyone’s weekly beats here usually have at LEAST one element that is really really cool. Continually amazed by what everyone is able to put together.

CC you probably know the guitar overpowers the drums. Maybe need some sidechaining or better EQ, not sure what the specific issue is.

blighters_rock wrote:

I'll have to trust you on the theory side of this. Cool tune! Kinda like a combination of Extreme and VGM. I don't understand what makes it so, though. I agree with prophisee about the guitars overpowering drums a bit, but I think you should be reaching for a fader. Shhh don't tell him, but he has a co-dependency issue w/sidechaining wink.

Thanks for the CC! Helped a lot. I've been sticking with similar instrumentation, and my latest songs in this category are better dialed in. My ears were too used to the guitar practice mix where the guitar absolutely dominates everything xD.

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