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the lurking machine

By neon liminal on May 5, 2024 9:53 pm

rplktr wrote:

Lyra 8 for techno? I was intrigued before I hit "Play", but I can't really hear it in the end result big_smile
But since the acidline is excellent, I'm not complaining.

... couldn't resist a challenge. I'm hoping you can hear it here.

In order of appearance, Lyra 8 for some rhythmic texture (+ some heavy 909 drums), Lyra8 sampled and turned into an acid bass line, Acid V doing some trancy stuff, Lyra8 sampled into a big saturated side chained pad to play us out.

It's not bad. It's not great.  I don't have the time access when I'm working in Ableton that I do when I'm working on the M8, and my skills at arranging quickly are still progressing, so when I'm working on an Ableton track I'm often finding myself just starting to arrange on Friday or Saturday, with the bulk of the week taken up by sound design and problem-solving. Another big time-sink is automation; so much faster on the M8 and less confusing!

The mix is okay - the mastering is also okay, but I think it sounds a little 'fizzy', but I literally ran out of time to try to fix this ... but it ain't bad.

I am a fan of the Lyra pad I made, the acid bass not so much - it was an interesting experiment, but the dense saturation of the Lyra waveform means the character of the filters involved become more pronounced when the resonance is knocking that frequency very high, and it starts to lose it's 'flavour', which I suppose is just a hazard of working with one sample.

The Lyra texture was fun though - something I've wanted to try for a while but never quite gotten it sounding right.

Anyway, learned lots, made some beats, onto the next!

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Still a great atmosphere to lose oneself in
Like, maybe the bass isn't the best you've ever done, but the way you made it dance really makes it feel great
- Ebrit

i said YEAH outloud, and am doing a dance in my chair that likely looks very embarrassing.
most of what you mentioned in your description went over my head, but this is working for meeeeeee

also emily is upstairs fixing some windchimes and it sounds really cool while yr track is playing   big_smile

Busting through the haze to rise triumphant. Fun ride here, good job. Great use of Lyra, you rose to the challenge, yeah not something you'd usually expect for techno, that things seems like a wild beast.

Definitely really like the Lyra work you did here.  I find doing the acid thing can be tricky because it's got such a sound, it's hard to do anything super creative with it.  If you'd like some mix feedback; there's definitely a good amount of bass but the mix sounds like it distorts in the low end on some of the those cymbal wash tones.
Cool track though!  The sjidechaining works a treat here.

Devieus wrote:

Still a great atmosphere to lose oneself in
Like, maybe the bass isn't the best you've ever done, but the way you made it dance really makes it feel great
- Ebrit

Thanks! It was fun. I think I'll limit Lyra to texture/pads in the future lol.

jwh wrote:

i said YEAH outloud, and am doing a dance in my chair that likely looks very embarrassing.
most of what you mentioned in your description went over my head, but this is working for meeeeeee
also emily is upstairs fixing some windchimes and it sounds really cool while yr track is playing   big_smile

Hahaha both situations I would have like to have seen/heard lol. Thanks for the image smile

miraclemiles wrote:

Busting through the haze to rise triumphant. Fun ride here, good job. Great use of Lyra, you rose to the challenge, yeah not something you'd usually expect for techno, that things seems like a wild beast.

Thanks! It is quite beastly and untamed. I really want to do live work that features it but I haven't found the right combination of effects gear to make it work. It really demands a good filter and some EQ.

rdomain wrote:

Definitely really like the Lyra work you did here.  I find doing the acid thing can be tricky because it's got such a sound, it's hard to do anything super creative with it.  If you'd like some mix feedback; there's definitely a good amount of bass but the mix sounds like it distorts in the low end on some of the those cymbal wash tones.
Cool track though!  The sjidechaining works a treat here.

Thanks! Yes I hear the distortion on the cymbals too, it's a problem I'm chasing down, somewhere between the drum buss/compression and mastering. I admit, I just grabbed a rack I'd used on another track, but I think adding the Lyra into the mix is what "enhanced" a previous problem that wasn't as evident. Weekly beats is definitely a time management thing for me - and sometimes I run out of time on certain things and hope the master will clean up. Doesn't always work!

I'm flattered you used my comment as inspiration for your track. Lyra sounds surprisingly capable as an acidline here! Even if you dislike it, let me assure you it sounds A-okay. In fact, let me tell you this flows so well that when it finished I was like: what, how can you make techno under 2 minutes!!!1! ...and this is over 4 minutes.

I'm the opposite to you: Ableton Live for me is easy mode while M8 with its monophonic 16-step patterns is like solving a puzzle every time. I do love the M8 as I started with trackers, but I can't say I gel with the LSDJ way.

As for cymbals distorting, it's likely the master maximizer. You're not the only one with this issue, Sigur Rós ruined their final mix of the album "takk..." by overdoing loudness and destroying the cymbals. There's no easy cure, it's mostly fiddling with the mix until it sounds good. Then you put it on in the car and the bass is boomy like hell. So you turn it down and then you can't hear it at all on a phone. It's a neverending story big_smile

rplktr wrote:

I'm flattered you used my comment as inspiration for your track. Lyra sounds surprisingly capable as an acidline here! Even if you dislike it, let me assure you it sounds A-okay. In fact, let me tell you this flows so well that when it finished I was like: what, how can you make techno under 2 minutes!!!1! ...and this is over 4 minutes.

I'm the opposite to you: Ableton Live for me is easy mode while M8 with its monophonic 16-step patterns is like solving a puzzle every time. I do love the M8 as I started with trackers, but I can't say I gel with the LSDJ way.

As for cymbals distorting, it's likely the master maximizer. You're not the only one with this issue, Sigur Rós ruined their final mix of the album "takk..." by overdoing loudness and destroying the cymbals. There's no easy cure, it's mostly fiddling with the mix until it sounds good. Then you put it on in the car and the bass is boomy like hell. So you turn it down and then you can't hear it at all on a phone. It's a neverending story big_smile

Thank you! For the inspiration and the compliments. I'm glad it flowed well, arrangement and efficiency definitely been a focus the last few months.

And fascinated to hear that about Sigur Ros ... I definitely remember hearing that effect on takk... I know on one previous track - one of the digitakt ones - when I was looking back at the mastering there was some kind of double-compression happening that was crushing most of my percussion. I'd assumed it was the compressor on the mixer - which I didn't realize was turned up - fucking with some bad settings on the digitakt, and likely the maximizer enhancing that in the master. This was Ableton though, so I need to look at that again.

Thanks again for the feedback, glad you enjoyed!

neon liminal wrote:

And fascinated to hear that about Sigur Ros ... I definitely remember hearing that effect on takk...

Yeah, so let me really blow your mind now. In 2005 I was at university in Poland. In Q2 that year a new album by Sigur Rós appeared on our internal shared FTP server where we put music downloads, movies, etc. It was "takk..." before it got officially released. I didn't even know it was before the official release, to be honest. I never learned who uploaded it and where they got the files from. They were some relatively quiet 128kbps files.

In any case, I was listening to that thing for a few years, and once in a record store I noticed that the track after "Gong" should be called "Andvari" and not "Gong Endir" like in my mp3s. I pointed this out to my girlfriend and she ended up buying the album for me so I could finally have lossless files and not those badly named 128kpbs MP3s.

So, I deleted the old files, imported the official album... and discovered it's too loud, to the point that it's distorted. The version I had before must have been some early mix that wasn't so maximized, and therefore the cymbals on it were perfectly fine. "Gong Endir" was also longer in the leaked MP3s. I was unable to recover what I deleted and so now I live with permanently damaged cymbals and piano in the finale of "Gong" sad

Here's the hilarious proof those files existed. Last.fm documented the track "Gong Endir", you can even see it's 30 seconds longer than "Andvari" big_smile

rplktr wrote:


Yeah, so let me really blow your mind now. ...
Here's the hilarious proof those files existed. Last.fm documented the track "Gong Endir", you can even see it's 30 seconds longer than "Andvari" big_smile

You are correct - my mind is blown, thank you lol! I actually have some very, very early Sigur Ros bootlegs, like, 1999-2001, not Takk, but earlier stuff and I'm gonna dig them up and check the track lengths vs official cuz I'm really curious now.

The Reykjavík music scene man ... just fascinating lol.

i really like the acid lines here! enjoyed this!

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