I think it totally works and is cohesive mix wise, etc. I think it could be presented in under four or five minutes, but it's the epic version, so yeah. It moves very slow, but has its own sound and vibe, so it succeeded as a piece of art. Will there be a shorter album version some time?

I think it totally works and is cohesive mix wise, etc. I think it could be presented in under four or five minutes, but it's the epic version, so yeah. It moves very slow, but has its own sound and vibe, so it succeeded as a piece of art. Will there be a shorter album version some time?

I love the evolution of the track, it flows very well and the different parts integrate very well, great work in the transitions as well!

I love the evolution of the track, it flows very well and the different parts integrate very well, great work in the transitions as well!

I love the ambition of it

Nice vocal melodies. There are some super nice thoughtful lines here and there. It's easy to get lost in it and I think further listens will reveal new things.

I think the flowyness works but one thing that stands out to me is that new things usually happen on the 1 (when a 4 or 8 bar loop repeats), so that kinda reveals the grid of the song. I think it could be even more flowy if there are layers that happen in between sections and things evolve a bit more organically and less artificial. That can be done in infinite ways tho. Maybe you can think of it how waves don't really have a start and an end, but they kinda intermingle. What would also help is a bit more of a bridge section at some point that really changes things up... but idk that's more of a classic songwriting thing - maybe this piece is more like classical music where things might change constantly.

I really like the little arp that first happens around ~4min, was waiting for it to come again but it didn't really, or at least it was pretty hidden.

PS: It would be cool to hear more versions of this song! Maybe vocal + ukulele...?

I love the ambition of it :D Nice vocal melodies. There are some super nice thoughtful lines here and there. It's easy to get lost in it and I think further listens will reveal new things. I think the flowyness works but one thing that stands out to me is that new things usually happen on the 1 (when a 4 or 8 bar loop repeats), so that kinda reveals the grid of the song. I think it could be even more flowy if there are layers that happen in between sections and things evolve a bit more organically and less artificial. That can be done in infinite ways tho. Maybe you can think of it how waves don't really have a start and an end, but they kinda intermingle. What would also help is a bit more of a bridge section at some point that really changes things up... but idk that's more of a classic songwriting thing - maybe this piece is more like classical music where things might change constantly. I really like the little arp that first happens around ~4min, was waiting for it to come again but it didn't really, or at least it was pretty hidden. PS: It would be cool to hear more versions of this song! Maybe vocal + ukulele...?

I really love that main progression that returns between the vocal lines. Very somber and longing, so a perfect fit thematically. I also appreciate the variety of vocal melodies, particularly the ascending line at 3:49 that ends in a fall with "anymore". Then at the 5:00 minute mark the chosen synth really starts to sound submerged which is also perfect for the song. 7:00 is probably my favorite of the sounds.

I agree with Horatiu's recommendation on introducing different ideas between the sections. And personally, I would also like to hear little melodic ideas between some the verses that outline more color to the chord progression (probably the aforementioned 5 and 7 minute marks). Maybe some vocal coos and harmonizations with the chord progression. There are a ton of different kinds of ideas that can be explored throughout the runtime. I think the length is justified though, it's a slow burn song that explores the mood.

btw your style kind of reminds me of this artist: Leila

I really love that main progression that returns between the vocal lines. Very somber and longing, so a perfect fit thematically. I also appreciate the variety of vocal melodies, particularly the ascending line at 3:49 that ends in a fall with "anymore". Then at the 5:00 minute mark the chosen synth really starts to sound submerged which is also perfect for the song. 7:00 is probably my favorite of the sounds. I agree with Horatiu's recommendation on introducing different ideas between the sections. And personally, I would also like to hear little melodic ideas between some the verses that outline more color to the chord progression (probably the aforementioned 5 and 7 minute marks). Maybe some vocal coos and harmonizations with the chord progression. There are a ton of different kinds of ideas that can be explored throughout the runtime. I think the length is justified though, it's a slow burn song that explores the mood. btw your style kind of reminds me of this artist: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdigWIJ4jgI&list=OLAK5uy_lm1kt5d2BYeT4Eb9D3Hqi-IZmYQdZyyoI&index=11]Leila[/url]

wow, that was so moving. what a journey!
i thought it all flowed really naturally, and the mix felt like it had room to breathe - even when you introduced more sounds. i love when the vocal double comes in on select lines, like @ 3:30

what a great line:
"i am nowhere, but we are everywhere"

and yeah, that synth at 7:00 is so expressive.
thanks again.

wow, that was so moving. what a journey! i thought it all flowed really naturally, and the mix felt like it had room to breathe - even when you introduced more sounds. i love when the vocal double comes in on select lines, like @ 3:30 what a great line: "i am nowhere, but we are everywhere" and yeah, that synth at 7:00 is so expressive. thanks again.

Thanks! Yes there will be a shorter version once I get to it. I'm thinking max 4 minutes, but maybe even shorter, I'll see

[quote=george bowles]I think it totally works and is cohesive mix wise, etc. I think it could be presented in under four or five minutes, but it's the epic version, so yeah. It moves very slow, but has its own sound and vibe, so it succeeded as a piece of art. Will there be a shorter album version some time?[/quote] Thanks! Yes there will be a shorter version once I get to it. I'm thinking max 4 minutes, but maybe even shorter, I'll see

Thank you very much for your constructive and insightful comments. I agree with the potential to play with the rhythms more to make it more organic and am glad to have my own suspicions confirmed that there's something off with having shifts happening on the 1st beat..also am positively surprised you noticed the arp. I was worried it would remove the flowyness if I used it more but now I'm looking forward to experimenting with it a bit more

I actually first wrote this song on my ukulele, and that version is quite different. I am planning to publish my songs in different versions, so probably one album of electronic versions and one album that has purely acoustic ukulele versions.

Thanks a lot for your very thoughtful and constructive comments. I appreciate you taking the time. It helps me see there's a lot that can help me develop my music further. But yeah..there's always things you can do differently. The question is what you choose among all those things. Well, gives an opportunity to experiment.

[quote=horatiuromantic]I love the ambition of it :D Nice vocal melodies. There are some super nice thoughtful lines here and there. It's easy to get lost in it and I think further listens will reveal new things. I think the flowyness works but one thing that stands out to me is that new things usually happen on the 1 (when a 4 or 8 bar loop repeats), so that kinda reveals the grid of the song. I think it could be even more flowy if there are layers that happen in between sections and things evolve a bit more organically and less artificial. That can be done in infinite ways tho. Maybe you can think of it how waves don't really have a start and an end, but they kinda intermingle. What would also help is a bit more of a bridge section at some point that really changes things up... but idk that's more of a classic songwriting thing - maybe this piece is more like classical music where things might change constantly. I really like the little arp that first happens around ~4min, was waiting for it to come again but it didn't really, or at least it was pretty hidden. PS: It would be cool to hear more versions of this song! Maybe vocal + ukulele...?[/quote] Thank you very much for your constructive and insightful comments. I agree with the potential to play with the rhythms more to make it more organic and am glad to have my own suspicions confirmed that there's something off with having shifts happening on the 1st beat..also am positively surprised you noticed the arp. I was worried it would remove the flowyness if I used it more but now I'm looking forward to experimenting with it a bit more :) I actually first wrote this song on my ukulele, and that version is quite different. I am planning to publish my songs in different versions, so probably one album of electronic versions and one album that has purely acoustic ukulele versions. :) [quote=ViridianLoom]I really love that main progression that returns between the vocal lines. Very somber and longing, so a perfect fit thematically. I also appreciate the variety of vocal melodies, particularly the ascending line at 3:49 that ends in a fall with "anymore". Then at the 5:00 minute mark the chosen synth really starts to sound submerged which is also perfect for the song. 7:00 is probably my favorite of the sounds. I agree with Horatiu's recommendation on introducing different ideas between the sections. And personally, I would also like to hear little melodic ideas between some the verses that outline more color to the chord progression (probably the aforementioned 5 and 7 minute marks). Maybe some vocal coos and harmonizations with the chord progression. There are a ton of different kinds of ideas that can be explored throughout the runtime. I think the length is justified though, it's a slow burn song that explores the mood. btw your style kind of reminds me of this artist: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdigWIJ4jgI&list=OLAK5uy_lm1kt5d2BYeT4Eb9D3Hqi-IZmYQdZyyoI&index=11]Leila[/url] [/quote] Thanks a lot for your very thoughtful and constructive comments. I appreciate you taking the time. It helps me see there's a lot that can help me develop my music further. But yeah..there's always things you can do differently. The question is what you choose among all those things. Well, gives an opportunity to experiment. :D

Epic. Not in the way as a great battle (aside from little bits), but still an epic feat.
- Devieus

Epic. Not in the way as a great battle (aside from little bits), but still an epic feat. - Devieus

Simply amazing. Love the deep emotion captured here.

Simply amazing. Love the deep emotion captured here.

My favorite track this week. I love the incredible reduction to the essence of the song. A perfect epic classic.

My favorite track this week. I love the incredible reduction to the essence of the song. A perfect epic classic.

Thank you very much!

[quote=Devieus]Epic. Not in the way as a great battle (aside from little bits), but still an epic feat. - Devieus[/quote] [quote=dr0ptpacket]Simply amazing. Love the deep emotion captured here.[/quote] [quote=Q-Rosh]My favorite track this week. I love the incredible reduction to the essence of the song. A perfect epic classic.[/quote] Thank you very much!

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