For anyone who wants to SERIOUSLY learn music theory, I would suggest starting at the beginning (or the present) and working your way forwards (or backwards).

Start with cantus firmus, then do species counterpoint. By the end of species counterpoint, you can implement 3 and 4 voice counterpoint, and then you've accidentally learnt harmony too. At least, on a basic level. http://www.listeningarts.com/music/gene … s/menu.htm

The reason for doing this is that you'll learn quite quickly how harmony came to exist in the first place, and the reason for its existence. As Phil Harmonic mentioned voice leading, I thought this would be a suitable way to approach it for a beginner.

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Very true. Theory is just an explanation for what is, and should always be thought of as that. However, having as many tools at your disposal as possible can't be a bad thing!

Apologies if anything I wrote was confusing, if I can clarify anything to anyone, do let me know!

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One thing I feel it very important to note, also, is that MELODY came BEFORE harmony. ALL scales except SYNTHETIC scales (and even those probably) have their roots in MELODY. The scales were the analysis of melodies of the past, rather than the melodies being referential to the scales, though that happened too a bit later.

The basic chronology within western music was this:

1. Monophonic music (single melodic line)

This developed from single melodic lines (often played en masse by choruses), into 2, 3 and 4-part counterpoint.

2. Polyphony (multiple melodic lines simultaneously)

Multiple melodic lines (see Bach), and 2/3/4 part counterpoint created a system of thinking vertically about music, and the development of modern harmony (chords). Through the established "rules" of counterpoint, a composer had little-to-no choice about creating harmony almost by default.

3. Everything since. big_smile

The point is, that melody came first.

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1. A key is a collection of notes that are harmonically related to one another by reference to the harmonic series (a series of pitches relating to every pitch), for example: in the key of C, the second strongest note that sounds when you press C on a piano, is C an octave up, followed by G, D, A, E, B and F. Which gives you the seven tones of the "key" of C, in the real world, these are not the same pitches that occur when you play the white notes on a piano. Modern western music uses a system called "equal temperament", which uses maths to divide each octave evenly into 12 pitches, irrespective of what register or "key".

So, you can tell what key you are in in a number of ways, firstly by looking at how many and what notes you use. So for example, if you had the notes: B D F# G# A C and E, what key would you be in? If you put these pitches into scale order (descending/ascending by step) from any point, let's go with C: C D E F# G# A B, this generates your "scale", in this case, a 7-tone scale akin to the major/minor system of western development. if we analyse it a bit more, we end up with a pitch collection that doesn't strictly occur in the diatonic (major/minor) scale system: if we take the G# away, we end up with a scale called "C Lydian", which is a mode, and shares the same pitch collection as G Major. In this case we also have a G#, which means it can't be G major, which creates an altered scale that doesn't belong to any particular "key", using C as the "tonic" (return/home/reference tone), we end up with a C Lydian with a #5, or a "lydian augmented" scale. Anyway, this is probably getting a bit too detailed for the question posed: the answer, simply, is that you define your key by how each note relates to the "tonic", and this can be done in relation to question 2, too:

2. You can define your key by your chords (two or more notes sounding together), each note in a chord relates to each other note in a certain way. For example, a minor chord (three notes), consists of a minor third interval from the first to second note, and a major third interval from the second to third note. A major chord is the opposite (major-minor), a diminished chord is minor-minor, augmented chord is major-major. What we then have is a relationship of tension to non-tension, or release.

In a standard major key, you have a collection of 7 base triads which follow the following progression
I ii iii IV V vi vii: the upper case representing a major triad, lower case representing a minor. This applies to ALL major keys. So, in the key of C, you have: C, Dm, Em, F, G, Am, Bdim.

So, if you were to come up with a chord progression that went: F /// | Bb /// | F /// | C / Bb / ||, you could, by deductive reasoning, figure out you were in the key of "F", as that would take the place of the "I" chord. That would mean your related scale would be F major: F G A Bb C D E (F).

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Now there's a lot more to it than that, and it gets a bit more fiddly when you introduce larger chords, or use a minor mode, but that should help (if it made sense) to begin with.

For the sake of discussion/thought, I would define a "key" as any point of tone center. For example, if I used all 12 pitches, but always referred back to F, either by playing MORE Fs than any other note, or by emphasising it in some other way, the tone center (and audible "key") would be F, also. This is a common way of doing things in rock music, trance, "post-rock" and minimalism.

Happy to help in any way I can with understanding music.

I spent a fair bit of time on mine, particularly just bug-fixing. But I'm happy with the result and I learnt a lot about Nodal during the last three weeks. I'm still not back at work (and really don't work that much anyway), but I've been doing some other music things and applying for commissions and other such things. Also been playing bass a lot. Anyway, the problem I am having now is "where to from here?"; I achieved what I wanted from the first three weeks, and have an idea in mind for this week, but the execution for it becomes a lot more challenging. Ah well, that's the fun of it!

Do you know him?

I was indeed! Excellent teacher he was, too.

Would love to see what you come up with.

More Nodal work from me. This time a solo piano piece utilising the fact that computers can do what humans can't, and using far more expansive networks and triggering systems.

Luckily I didn't get that, however, I did get software-blocked. In that, I forgot how to do MIDI triggering properly, and once I figured it out, all the changes seems to have confused the software and it was ages before I figured out that a simple software restart would fix things. Well, there you have it. Writer's block eh? If you write and write, something will be good. Also, I always try to not work linearly, and to have an overarching concept/form in mind prior to writing. Less so with the generative music I'm doing at the moment on here, but still need to have an idea/concept/form in mind, even if it's not strictly adhered to. Also, as someone mentioned, enjoying the things in life is a great way to find inspiration!

Am thinking on what to do for week 3 now!