Spotted your link on the discord server. I think the track is neat. It has a lot of cool variation and some good ideas. If you don't mind me saying, I do feel the mix is rather poor. It feels small and underwhelming. Minimizing the impact of what could, and should be a hard hitting track. Anyway, like I said, I do think the composition is good.

Spotted your link on the discord server. I think the track is neat. It has a lot of cool variation and some good ideas. If you don't mind me saying, I do feel the mix is rather poor. It feels small and underwhelming. Minimizing the impact of what could, and should be a hard hitting track. Anyway, like I said, I do think the composition is good.

Sure, feedback is welcome
So what part of the mix is missing impact? The vocals? The guitar? strings?

- Ebrit

[quote=electronic_tiger]Spotted your link on the discord server. I think the track is neat. It has a lot of cool variation and some good ideas. If you don't mind me saying, I do feel the mix is rather poor. It feels small and underwhelming. Minimizing the impact of what could, and should be a hard hitting track. Anyway, like I said, I do think the composition is good. [/quote] Sure, feedback is welcome So what part of the mix is missing impact? The vocals? The guitar? strings? - Ebrit

Hey Ebrit, okay! So I downloaded your track to give another proper listen. And surprisingly, it sounds significantly better than streaming out of Firefox from the WB player. With considerable more width, that's interesting.

Nonetheless, I do feel your mix is under-serving the tune. Let me walk you through my observations. Please bear in mind, I'm not trying to burn you down. But rather offer you my opinion as a form of constructive feedback:

First off, vocals? Are there vocals in this? No in any shape, way or form that I recognize.

The drums. I love the blast beats, but they are rather far away in the mix. Now partially that's a matter of taste. But they are the engine of the tune. They need to drive the whole track forward. So they need to punch. Currently I feel they are just too far away.

There is a main, low guitar/bass hybrid. I think that's overly lower-mid heavy. It's fighting the kick drum. I reckon that if you were to cut some of its low-mids it would help a lot. Then you can bring that more forward in the mix.

I would also greatly reduce the repetitive synth line in volume. It has no business being so front and center the whole time. It's so unchanging that it just do that quietly in the back ground.

Overall, your mix is really quite narrow. You occasionally have things happening in the sides. But it could use some more panning. The piano is way louder than everything else in the track, except for the two loud hihat hits towards the end.

I highly recommend putting some commercially released tracks in a playlist along with your own track. And the switch between them. Skipping to various sections. Don't touch the volume between them. And you'll quickly hear how small and weak your track is sounding. I know that can be confronting. But you need to identify your weaknesses if you want to able to improve them.

Again, I say all of this with the best of intentions. And it's all just my opinion, so feel free to do with it what you will. But I hope it is of some use to you.

Sincerely,
Vincent

[quote=DESLRV] Sure, feedback is welcome So what part of the mix is missing impact? The vocals? The guitar? strings?[/quote] Hey Ebrit, okay! So I downloaded your track to give another proper listen. And surprisingly, it sounds significantly better than streaming out of Firefox from the WB player. With considerable more width, that's interesting. Nonetheless, I do feel your mix is under-serving the tune. Let me walk you through my observations. Please bear in mind, I'm not trying to burn you down. But rather offer you my opinion as a form of constructive feedback: First off, vocals? Are there vocals in this? No in any shape, way or form that I recognize. The drums. I love the blast beats, but they are rather far away in the mix. Now partially that's a matter of taste. But they are the engine of the tune. They need to drive the whole track forward. So they need to punch. Currently I feel they are just too far away. There is a main, low guitar/bass hybrid. I think that's overly lower-mid heavy. It's fighting the kick drum. I reckon that if you were to cut some of its low-mids it would help a lot. Then you can bring that more forward in the mix. I would also greatly reduce the repetitive synth line in volume. It has no business being so front and center the whole time. It's so unchanging that it just do that quietly in the back ground. Overall, your mix is really quite narrow. You occasionally have things happening in the sides. But it could use some more panning. The piano is way louder than everything else in the track, except for the two loud hihat hits towards the end. I highly recommend putting some commercially released tracks in a playlist along with your own track. And the switch between them. Skipping to various sections. Don't touch the volume between them. And you'll quickly hear how small and weak your track is sounding. I know that can be confronting. But you need to identify your weaknesses if you want to able to improve them. Again, I say all of this with the best of intentions. And it's all just my opinion, so feel free to do with it what you will. But I hope it is of some use to you. Sincerely, Vincent

weird, guess it just does that

vocals: it's the somewhat lower register sound that bends, but through some pretty heavy distortion
drums: I suppose they are, but they are also way too numerous to make them be any louder, so the engine part is delegated more to the strings (it really should've been the guitar doing arps)
guitar: agreed, tho distortion tends to pull it down a bunch, I'll see what it's like later
synth: what synth? I guess that'd be the vocals, or they're supposed to be, which in death metal just kinda sound vague like that
narrow: I didn't want to double track the guitar, it was hard enough doing it once, but maybe the drums can be spread a bit, but I'm open to suggestions
reference: I usually do that, and I got two of them that this is based on, but just didn't want to do it, I'll do it later see how they measure up

anyway, thank you for your time, be sure to check our other songs, this one was just kinda tough

- E

[quote=electronic_tiger][quote=DESLRV] Sure, feedback is welcome So what part of the mix is missing impact? The vocals? The guitar? strings?[/quote] Hey Ebrit, okay! So I downloaded your track to give another proper listen. And surprisingly, it sounds significantly better than streaming out of Firefox from the WB player. With considerable more width, that's interesting. Nonetheless, I do feel your mix is under-serving the tune. Let me walk you through my observations. Please bear in mind, I'm not trying to burn you down. But rather offer you my opinion as a form of constructive feedback: First off, vocals? Are there vocals in this? No in any shape, way or form that I recognize. The drums. I love the blast beats, but they are rather far away in the mix. Now partially that's a matter of taste. But they are the engine of the tune. They need to drive the whole track forward. So they need to punch. Currently I feel they are just too far away. There is a main, low guitar/bass hybrid. I think that's overly lower-mid heavy. It's fighting the kick drum. I reckon that if you were to cut some of its low-mids it would help a lot. Then you can bring that more forward in the mix. I would also greatly reduce the repetitive synth line in volume. It has no business being so front and center the whole time. It's so unchanging that it just do that quietly in the back ground. Overall, your mix is really quite narrow. You occasionally have things happening in the sides. But it could use some more panning. The piano is way louder than everything else in the track, except for the two loud hihat hits towards the end. I highly recommend putting some commercially released tracks in a playlist along with your own track. And the switch between them. Skipping to various sections. Don't touch the volume between them. And you'll quickly hear how small and weak your track is sounding. I know that can be confronting. But you need to identify your weaknesses if you want to able to improve them. Again, I say all of this with the best of intentions. And it's all just my opinion, so feel free to do with it what you will. But I hope it is of some use to you. Sincerely, Vincent[/quote] weird, guess it just does that vocals: it's the somewhat lower register sound that bends, but through some pretty heavy distortion drums: I suppose they are, but they are also way too numerous to make them be any louder, so the engine part is delegated more to the strings (it really should've been the guitar doing arps) guitar: agreed, tho distortion tends to pull it down a bunch, I'll see what it's like later synth: what synth? I guess that'd be the vocals, or they're supposed to be, which in death metal just kinda sound vague like that narrow: I didn't want to double track the guitar, it was hard enough doing it once, but maybe the drums can be spread a bit, but I'm open to suggestions reference: I usually do that, and I got two of them that this is based on, but just didn't want to do it, I'll do it later see how they measure up anyway, thank you for your time, be sure to check our other songs, this one was just kinda tough - E

the guitar rips! i got carpal tunnel just from listening 

the guitar rips! i got carpal tunnel just from listening :D

What is that strange robotic sound? It is so cool, is that some kind of effect on the guitar? I dig that a lot. Cool strange metal music, which sometimes takes us into black metal territorry.

What is that strange robotic sound? It is so cool, is that some kind of effect on the guitar? I dig that a lot. Cool strange metal music, which sometimes takes us into black metal territorry.

holy heaviness! \m/ The guitar is awesome and such a powerful driving drum track too!  Distortion filters are always fun

holy heaviness! \m/ The guitar is awesome and such a powerful driving drum track too! Distortion filters are always fun :)

It really wasn't that bad, the tempo is a lot lower than you'd think

I think the answer may be found in the description, it's the successor to delay lama with distortion

yea, went a little nuts with them and there's like 4 of them in there, they sound so cool

- Ebrit

[quote=jwh]the guitar rips! i got carpal tunnel just from listening :D[/quote] It really wasn't that bad, the tempo is a lot lower than you'd think [quote=Kedbreak136]What is that strange robotic sound? It is so cool, is that some kind of effect on the guitar? I dig that a lot. Cool strange metal music, which sometimes takes us into black metal territorry.[/quote] I think the answer may be found in the description, it's the successor to delay lama with distortion [quote=Tone Matrix]holy heaviness! \m/ The guitar is awesome and such a powerful driving drum track too! Distortion filters are always fun :) [/quote] yea, went a little nuts with them and there's like 4 of them in there, they sound so cool - Ebrit

This is cool! Really INTENSE!!

This is cool! Really INTENSE!!

More fuzz! More symphonic! More death! Probably just enough metal. This is awesome

More fuzz! More symphonic! More death! Probably just enough metal. This is awesome <3

Intense is right, got my rocking out over here! Love this

Intense is right, got my rocking out over here! Love this

Thank you!
It was very intense to make

There's never enough metal, only just barely enough

Thanks, little bro
rock on!

- Ebrit

[quote=Earp Lug]This is cool! Really INTENSE!![/quote] Thank you! It was very intense to make [quote=neon liminal]More fuzz! More symphonic! More death! Probably just enough metal. This is awesome <3[/quote] There's never enough metal, only just barely enough [quote=b bro]Intense is right, got my rocking out over here! Love this[/quote] Thanks, little bro rock on! - Ebrit