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The Sun Will Rise Again

By Paisleyfrog on December 8, 2024 5:07 pm

This one has been in the idea bucket for a while, since about 2020. I was having a songwriting flood around then, and would usually sit on my living room floor before work and kick out song sketches. This one jumped out pretty much fully formed - chords, structure and even melody. It didn't have any words, though - that original scratch just has me singing the melody over the top with "na na na" sounds. I sent it to my wife, and she called it "Scarboroughish", because it made her think of Scarborough Fair. (It's lived in our unfinished song book since then under that name). The music made her think of traveling, so she wrote these lyrics. The entire track is actually built right over the top of that original scratch, using the original tempo (including the slowdown at the end).

When it came to turning it into a full song, we both had the same sort of idea, with strings and such. I initially had it overproduced with the additional instrumentation going through the entire song - which oddly made the guitar not work at all. She told me that it was that initial guitar arpeggio that made her think of the lyrics - sounding like a train. That gave me the idea of the slow build on the instrumentation, which I think worked pretty damn well smile

Even though the track was built on it, I couldn't directly use the original scratch - it had my "na na was" baked into it. Took me a bit to remember how to properly finger pick my 12. I was going at it a little too hard at first, and it sounded twangy and awful. This guitar needs a light touch, and sitting further back from the mic.

Other than guitar and vocal, this track is all Session instruments. I took the opportunity to dig into the chord, type and range variations to break things up a bit. The strings are the Simple Pad keyboard player - after establishing the track, I swapped in a string ensemble sound and backed way off on the attack. The e piano plays arpeggios mostly, and then moves to "freely" during the solo. It got about 90% sounding right - I had to convert to MIDI and adjust a few notes. Also odd with the drummer - you can have the fill amount and complexity turned down to zero, and it will still throw in the odd kick drum fill. Fine, convert to MIDI and delete.

One more song to go for the album!

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I just love that you're organized enough to be able to dig up these song ideas and properly finish them. wooow when the drums/bass kick in at 2 it takes this song to the next level and that litle piano solo. Sounds so good. You guys killed it.

Lovely, as always, and, as always, looking forward to the folk album. Just gonna keep saying that lol heart

This is just lovely. And indeed, quite Scarborough-ish! Hahahahah... The soft vocals here are so nice with the steady drums and guitar anchoring things down. Awesome job!

This is a great job on production for a weekly beats, I guess I should come to expect it from you.
That melody for the lines of 'the sun will rise again' fits this vibe so well. I didn't see it coming but liked the drop in with the drums half way.
Enjoyed learning a bit about your process and the 'bucket' too.
Nice work!

I can sort of see the connection. The panning is definitely a lot better. The voice is lovely, quite possibly fitting the original Scarborough Fare much better considering the subject. Much like theirs would fit these lyrics better. Very lovely.
- Spider

SQF wrote:

I just love that you're organized enough to be able to dig up these song ideas and properly finish them. wooow when the drums/bass kick in at 2 it takes this song to the next level and that litle piano solo. Sounds so good. You guys killed it.

Thank you so much! Always feels good to get one of these finished. (My wife's first professional experience was as a librarian/information science, she's the one who keeps us on track. I'm the wildly disorganized one in this writing partnership smile )

neon liminal wrote:

Lovely, as always, and, as always, looking forward to the folk album. Just gonna keep saying that lol heart

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Forthcoming is forthcoming!

jegasus wrote:

This is just lovely. And indeed, quite Scarborough-ish! Hahahahah... The soft vocals here are so nice with the steady drums and guitar anchoring things down. Awesome job!

Thank you! It was a fun challenge to figure out just how much anchor this song needed - way more than I initially was using!

myfirstpunksong wrote:

This is a great job on production for a weekly beats, I guess I should come to expect it from you.
That melody for the lines of 'the sun will rise again' fits this vibe so well. I didn't see it coming but liked the drop in with the drums half way.
Enjoyed learning a bit about your process and the 'bucket' too.
Nice work!

Thanks...it was fun to sort of "peel back" the parts and decide when they should come in. That drum and epiano entry felt good smile

There are many buckets! This one has been in the unfinished lyrics book (which is divided into ones that have music or not). As we've completed them, they get moved into the finished songbook. And of course we've been tracking song and album completion via spreadsheet. smile

Devieus wrote:

I can sort of see the connection. The panning is definitely a lot better. The voice is lovely, quite possibly fitting the original Scarborough Fare much better considering the subject. Much like theirs would fit these lyrics better. Very lovely.
- Spider

Thank you so much...making a favorable connection to Scarborough Faire is high praise indeed. Also, I had forgotten that SF had that 60s hard left/right panning from when they weren't quite sure what to do with stereo yet smile smile

Oh wow this is lovely - she's singing a little lower than usual and I really really like it!! It fits the song. Instrumentation sounds full and very classy. The fiddling paid off smile I'm not usually an acoustic and/or ballad person, but this one gave me the shivers - you cut through my "punk or die" attitude, which is no small feat.

MRDRCAT wrote:

Oh wow this is lovely - she's singing a little lower than usual and I really really like it!! It fits the song. Instrumentation sounds full and very classy. The fiddling paid off smile I'm not usually an acoustic and/or ballad person, but this one gave me the shivers - you cut through my "punk or die" attitude, which is no small feat.

Thank you so much . And wow, you noticed! Great ear. We have done a silly number of songs in F, but this one is in E minor. I think her range has dropped a bit since we’ve started recording, and I really love the sound ❤️ I commented to her while she was singing that she seems to be really comfortable in this range…and she agreed. This makes me happy: as a guitarist, F is a pain LOL.

"sounding like a train. That gave me the idea of the slow build on the instrumentation" such a good idea, and a great way to give the music movement.  There's that sad hope to the song which you both seem so wonderfully able to evoke.  Can't wait to hear them all together

just so good, the 2 of you are so good at what you do. Simon & Garf were huge for me growing up (still are, really) so i sat up right away reading your notes.

excellent vocal melody and performance, with a sensitive and supporting arrangement that carries the song along... yes, like a train. well done!

Golly that fingerpicking is immaculate. Love this.

Wow this is great. A favorite from you for sure. I like how the structure is executed. I can totally see the train motion in this. Great effort heart

This is really beautiful you two! Really lovely arrangement with the guitar picking and the e-piano solo. I love the idea of an unfinished song book ... that's something I can get behind haha! Really nice work on this one though.

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