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Paint it Red

By Paisleyfrog on July 21, 2024 4:02 pm

More grindy, noisy music this week along the lines of Ministry or Filter (and structurally, a touch of Numan).

New bass this week! The track coalesced around it. I haven't had a fretted full-scale bass in years, and missed that metallic sound for rock and such (I still miss my RBX274). Based on the success of my cheap Tele copy (by Glarry!), I took a chance and bought a Glarry jazz bass copy on Amazon for $69. Put some fuzz on it and it's amazing, grindy goodness. Laid down the bassline and everything else built around it.

Still using the Strat copy I fixed last week with the same guitar settings...and lots of overdubs (seven tracks by the end).

Sample is from Horror Express (1973), public domain

› Lyrics

Over here, it's definitely the summer of our discontent.
I just think these keep getting better and better! I especially love the sound of the chorus vocals, the bass and guitar sound great too. Well mixed. Even the fade out at the end just really sounds like a radio-ready album. Please come thru sac when you open for Gary on his next tour smile
I also wish you and Drum Bender could collaborate!
Sorry if I've said any of this already, I've been away from WB for what feels like a month and my memory is crap but anyways great track.

The vocal effects, especially in the chorus, perfect.  Really enjoying your trip into industrial rock, could imagine dancing to it at the goth/industrial clubs in the late nineties.  Bass slapped as well, very nice.  And your samples selection is as perfect as ever.

Also...how good is Horror Express?  Only saw it for the first time a few years ago, so much fun.

I mean .............. I was sitting here listening to this, grooving, loving every part of it and reliving so many flashbacks to my favourite eras of industrial and NIN and Skinny Puppy and memories of concerts and theatres and smoke in the air and the smell of stale beer and teenage angst and sweat and leather and .... I got lost. Forgot what I was listening to. Holy F*CK it's your song and it's amazing.

I mean I wasn't knocked off my feet, I was knocked out of the real world by this track. Awesome.

Okay I gotta write some vocals this week.

I'm sorry, what?! Your bass cost $70? Fuck manufacturing is good/cheap these days.
This you singing? You sound very comfortable in that vocal identity.

Really loving the hard crunchy feel of this one. Super fun all around!

fetalface wrote:

Over here, it's definitely the summer of our discontent.
I just think these keep getting better and better! I especially love the sound of the chorus vocals, the bass and guitar sound great too. Well mixed. Even the fade out at the end just really sounds like a radio-ready album. Please come thru sac when you open for Gary on his next tour smile
I also wish you and Drum Bender could collaborate!
Sorry if I've said any of this already, I've been away from WB for what feels like a month and my memory is crap but anyways great track.

Thank you so much! I really feel like I've improved this year...I don't know if I could have mixed this a year ago without it becoming mud. So much support and encouragement from posting here. The Weekly Beats community is amazing.

lament.config wrote:

The vocal effects, especially in the chorus, perfect.  Really enjoying your trip into industrial rock, could imagine dancing to it at the goth/industrial clubs in the late nineties.  Bass slapped as well, very nice.  And your samples selection is as perfect as ever.

Also...how good is Horror Express?  Only saw it for the first time a few years ago, so much fun.

Thank you!! I've never tried distorted vocals before, finally realized it was a key component I was missing. Spent some time this week listening to Ministry and Thrill Kill Cult to get the feel. I've been enjoying my foray into industrial rock, too...something I've always loved but never quite been able to make.

Also...I knew you'd like the Horror Express sample. smile SUCH a fun B horror movie. Christopher Lee AND Peter Cushing? Awesome. Plus a Mad Monk that's like Rasputin ordered from Wish, and Telly Savalas feeling wildly out of place. I found it probably 12 years ago when I was mining movies for samples (made a another track off this one as well..."what you have here is unholy...and MUST be destroyed!"). It's so much fun that I stopped looking for samples and just watched it.

neon liminal wrote:

I mean .............. I was sitting here listening to this, grooving, loving every part of it and reliving so many flashbacks to my favourite eras of industrial and NIN and Skinny Puppy and memories of concerts and theatres and smoke in the air and the smell of stale beer and teenage angst and sweat and leather and .... I got lost. Forgot what I was listening to. Holy F*CK it's your song and it's amazing.

I mean I wasn't knocked off my feet, I was knocked out of the real world by this track. Awesome.

Okay I gotta write some vocals this week.

Oh wow. Oh wow oh wow. Thank you. heart

Mentally I was really rolling around in the late 90s as I wrote this. It was a time, wasn't it?

Also can't wait to hear more vocals on your stuff!

ONE HIT KILL wrote:

I'm sorry, what?! Your bass cost $70? Fuck manufacturing is good/cheap these days.
This you singing? You sound very comfortable in that vocal identity.

I KNOW RIGHT? It's a magical time to be a musician. Shipping was $20, but still. And to be fair, I tried another cheap bass before this one and it was absolute garbage. But Glarry is a solid brand. Only had to adjust the bridge and it was ready to go.

Yup, my vocals...thanks! Took me a bit to find where this one wanted to sit, and that harmony part is almost too high for me...but I had a lot of fun singing this. I've never really found a singing style that seemed to click with me (and I don't much like my voice anyway), but this felt good.

jegasus wrote:

Really loving the hard crunchy feel of this one. Super fun all around!

Thank you! It was super fun seeing how crunchy and how loud I could get this one before it was just an exhausting mess. "No, louder. NO, LOUDER." big_smile

You nailed the late-90s industrial rock sound - clean when it needs to be, wall of noise when it doesn't. And I pegged this as one of yours as soon as I heard the vocals! Hard agree with One Hit Kill: your vocals are always solid, but here they are positively ENTRENCHED. They really anchor the whole piece and you sound great. This is a brilliant slice of nostalgia!

Oooh yais feelin those Ministry/Filter vibes with a dash of Numan.  Love when the chorus kicks in.  Totally takes me back to those early listens of Filter's Short Bus album.  That pulsing synth line really adds to the mood of this track.  The chorus also reminds me a bit of Skinny Puppy's vocals.  Excellent guitar solo and love the crunchiness of it.  Oooh and the Horror Express sample gives it that extra industrial goodness.  Well done!

Filter! smile

You've nailed it here, all nine inches of it. And that bass sounds good. I think that proves that skilled players can make any instrument sound good. wink Anyway, cool stuff!

I had left wb's playing and this song was on and I had completely forgotten and thought it was some unheard bowie track playing on some discovery feed

I was like, what is this? weekly beat!

Great job this week! The megaphone sound on the vocals worked really well, and the doubles on the chorus really brought the energy up. Makes me want to try something like that.

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh \m/
that chorus RULES
PAINT IT RED

MRDRCAT wrote:

You nailed the late-90s industrial rock sound - clean when it needs to be, wall of noise when it doesn't. And I pegged this as one of yours as soon as I heard the vocals! Hard agree with One Hit Kill: your vocals are always solid, but here they are positively ENTRENCHED. They really anchor the whole piece and you sound great. This is a brilliant slice of nostalgia!

Thanks! I've always sort of struggled with how I view my voice, and finding how I should use it and where it fits best. This recording and performance felt good[i].

Tone Matrix wrote:

Oooh yais feelin those Ministry/Filter vibes with a dash of Numan.  Love when the chorus kicks in.  Totally takes me back to those early listens of Filter's Short Bus album.  That pulsing synth line really adds to the mood of this track.  The chorus also reminds me a bit of Skinny Puppy's vocals.  Excellent guitar solo and love the crunchiness of it.  Oooh and the Horror Express sample gives it that extra industrial goodness.  Well done!

Thank you! Skinny Puppy and Ministry are my reference points for distorted lyrics. I'm glad it came across heart For the guitar solo, I decided to play it along the lines of "strangle the guitar like it owes me money". LOL

electronic_tiger wrote:

Filter! smile

You've nailed it here, all nine inches of it. And that bass sounds good. I think that proves that skilled players can make any instrument sound good. wink Anyway, cool stuff!

I see what you did there....LOL

And thank you. I've been playing bass for about 20 years now, and I agree that a lot of instrument tone is in the player's fingers - but I'll also say that the Glarry is worth the money as a low-end guitar that won't actively fight against the player smile  (I also love watching videos of excellent players picking up kid's instruments and absolutely wailing on them)

mwmwmw wrote:

I had left wb's playing and this song was on and I had completely forgotten and thought it was some unheard bowie track playing on some discovery feed

I was like, what is this? weekly beat!

Once again...oh wow. Thank you!!

SteveSkiano wrote:

Great job this week! The megaphone sound on the vocals worked really well, and the doubles on the chorus really brought the energy up. Makes me want to try something like that.

I like that you nailed the exact preset name I used! I did some tweaking, and played around with the distortion settings between the verse and chorus.

Doubling a line and spreading the pan is something I do almost all the time with guitar, not nearly as much with vocals. Thinking back on the ones I've listened to of yours, you haven't done doubling on your vocals, have you? That would be [i]amazing with your voice.

jwh wrote:

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh \m/
that chorus RULES
PAINT IT RED

Reactions like this are making my month. Thanks!

Paisleyfrog wrote:


I like that you nailed the exact preset name I used! I did some tweaking, and played around with the distortion settings between the verse and chorus.

Actually I do a lot of doubling, or even triples, on my vocals. Still trying to figure out mixing and stuff. This year with WB has been my first time doing any recording or mixing at all, so I have a lot to learn. I have learned quite a bit from blighters rock, since he's in my band and does the recording and mixing for us.

SteveSkiano wrote:
Paisleyfrog wrote:


I like that you nailed the exact preset name I used! I did some tweaking, and played around with the distortion settings between the verse and chorus.

Actually I do a lot of doubling, or even triples, on my vocals. Still trying to figure out mixing and stuff. This year with WB has been my first time doing any recording or mixing at all, so I have a lot to learn. I have learned quite a bit from blighters rock, since he's in my band and does the recording and mixing for us.

First year recording? Damn, you've made good progress. How much do you pan each track when you double?

Paisleyfrog wrote:
SteveSkiano wrote:

First year recording? Damn, you've made good progress. How much do you pan each track when you double?

Usually hard left and right. If I'm doing harmonies also, I'll pan those like half left and right, and the doubles hard left and right, with a main vocal down the middle.

SteveSkiano wrote:
Paisleyfrog wrote:
SteveSkiano wrote:

First year recording? Damn, you've made good progress. How much do you pan each track when you double?

Usually hard left and right. If I'm doing harmonies also, I'll pan those like half left and right, and the doubles hard left and right, with a main vocal down the middle.

How have I missed that? LOL. Went back to a few tracks, and can definitely hear the width now that I’m focusing on it.

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