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Medallion

By orangedrink on April 13, 2018 10:51 pm

This is an unfinished song from 2011 that was giving me some trouble.  I added the string section and reworked all the EQ, as I have learned a lot of new things since 2011!  I'm still uncertain about a few things:


- Vinyl noise in + out.  Not sure if it is relevant to the piece.
- String section at the end
- Guitars at the end
- Mastered too loudly?


I feel like the piece is sorely missing some creepy movie sample at the beginning and during the middle break before the 2nd melody comes in.  Oh well!  I'm still recovering from the emotional rollercoaster of last week's piece to be honest.  Still trying to catch up on everyone's music and comments!  Please excuse my tardiness.  This week's piece is dedicated to all the WB significant others and roommates who put up with our mental breakdowns and loud noises late into the night. heart


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April 16, 2018 12:46 am

The vinyl noise might not be strictly necessary, but it doesn't detract to me.  The beat is awesome on this.  The track is loud, but sounds good to me.  The end sounded fine, although I didn't particularly notice the strings actually.  Overall I like the track a lot though.

April 16, 2018 1:56 pm

Hey, I like it a lot.
The vinyl crackle is not necessary indeed, and I think you could get rid of it, since it's not really adding anything to the track.
At first I thought the effect on the drums was a bit too harsh, but then throughout the song it didn't bother me at all and I started to really dig it.
I do like the strings, it adds a nice drama. Wouldn't hesitate about that!

Great track

April 16, 2018 4:49 pm

Vinyl scratches are an effective time-tripping element. I know that the powerful bass & beat would have flipped the needle off my turntable in real life, which adds an extra element of unreality.

April 16, 2018 5:29 pm

vinylcrackles not nessesary for me in this kind of crunchy track. it sounds very professional mixed and mastered. I can regulate the level myself, but it wasn`t too loud. guitar is very OK there. The strings? couldn`t find them.

April 16, 2018 10:10 pm

I think the vinyl crackles in the intro works well and add to the overall vibe.
Hard hitting, but not too loud. I really like the end with the guitar and (subtle) strings. Everything works for me here! Well done.

April 16, 2018 10:14 pm


oooh i really like this - great vibe!

April 17, 2018 5:56 am

It's fine the way it is, though movie soundbites never hurt.

April 18, 2018 12:06 am

id never listen to something and say its sorely missing a sample from a movie or something. the drums are a bit too bitcrushed for my taste but other than that id say its a very nice track and mixed/mastered just fine

April 18, 2018 12:49 pm

I'm grooving on these drums. The tone and beat fit this song perfectly.

April 18, 2018 4:23 pm

Love how the bass counters with the synth ticks, especially when it does that stutter.  It has a Reznor vibe to it with those wailing guitar/synths in the back.  Well done!

April 20, 2018 10:49 pm

Crunchy moody goodness. Love that beat and the atmospherics. Really got me half way in when beat drops and comes back in. Yeah.
Thanks for dedicating to WB significant others, they are saints.

April 21, 2018 8:16 pm

Pretty groovy! The track got me as it is. I feel like I need nothing more in the track to enjoy it.
Also, the mastering is okay, not loud.

April 22, 2018 12:10 pm

I dig the vinyl intro/outro, matches those gritty sounds which really fatten this track up. Nice work.

April 22, 2018 11:21 pm

Got a great beat. I like the somber element of the that bell tone (FM synthy sound) progression that repeats throughout most of the track.  I don't think the vinyl scratches are necessary. Or they may be too hot in the mix. Otherwise mix sounds solid. It's very clean and I think, If I may presume, that you are trying to dirty it up or warm it up a bit with either considering the movie samples or using the vinyl sounds. I'm totally guessing at this based on the warm, beautiful overdriven and lo fi sounds used in some of your other tracks. Strings worked out well!

April 25, 2018 1:17 am

Love the crunchy beats, the droney bass, the crackles, the simplicity... you did good kid, you did real good

April 25, 2018 11:46 am

Dig the bit crushed beats and that overbearing 2 note bass line with the solid backbeat that comes in.  The vinyl crackle didn't sound warm enough to me.  It's an overused thing so has to be executed very well to make it worthwhile.  I really like the driven guitar tone at the end but the clean one not as much.  Still works fine tho!

May 1, 2018 11:07 am

I agree wto.
This Song reminds me of an earthview from the ISS

June 4, 2018 6:25 pm

UPDATE:  Thanks for everyone's feedback.  I have decided that I will remove the vinyl crackle and instead (on the album) have the song fade in from the preceding track, to give the feel that it is emanating from somewhere else.  I will also increase the volume of the strings and maybe pan them so they can come out a bit more.  The comments helped me feel confident about those changes; I love WB!

CosmicCairns wrote:

The vinyl noise might not be strictly necessary, but it doesn't detract to me.  The beat is awesome on this.  The track is loud, but sounds good to me.  The end sounded fine, although I didn't particularly notice the strings actually.  Overall I like the track a lot though.

Thanks, CC!

dj someguy wrote:

Hey, I like it a lot.
The vinyl crackle is not necessary indeed, and I think you could get rid of it, since it's not really adding anything to the track.
At first I thought the effect on the drums was a bit too harsh, but then throughout the song it didn't bother me at all and I started to really dig it.
I do like the strings, it adds a nice drama. Wouldn't hesitate about that!

Great track

Thanks, and agreed.  Glad to hear that the drums actually sounded too harsh and then felt okay, I did want a bit of a "shock" experience.

Jim Wood wrote:

Vinyl scratches are an effective time-tripping element. I know that the powerful bass & beat would have flipped the needle off my turntable in real life, which adds an extra element of unreality.

Excellent point!

Q-Rosh wrote:

vinylcrackles not nessesary for me in this kind of crunchy track. it sounds very professional mixed and mastered. I can regulate the level myself, but it wasn`t too loud. guitar is very OK there. The strings? couldn`t find them.

Yeah, going to remix the strings to give them a better placement.  Thank you!

Plantrain wrote:

I think the vinyl crackles in the intro works well and add to the overall vibe.
Hard hitting, but not too loud. I really like the end with the guitar and (subtle) strings. Everything works for me here! Well done.

Thanks so much!  Glad you liked the piece!

kaedo sevaada wrote:


oooh i really like this - great vibe!

Thanks!

Devieus wrote:

It's fine the way it is, though movie soundbites never hurt.

Thanks for listening, Devieus!

underground Luau wrote:

id never listen to something and say its sorely missing a sample from a movie or something. the drums are a bit too bitcrushed for my taste but other than that id say its a very nice track and mixed/mastered just fine

Yeah, in retrospect, it was almost like an excuse or something to add a sample.  I feel better after the comments and encouragement smile

June 4, 2018 6:40 pm
onlyjokinen wrote:

I'm grooving on these drums. The tone and beat fit this song perfectly.

TY!!!  Glad you were into the electro-hip-hop I was going for.

Tone Matrix wrote:

Love how the bass counters with the synth ticks, especially when it does that stutter.  It has a Reznor vibe to it with those wailing guitar/synths in the back.  Well done!

Love me some Reznor!

miraclemiles wrote:

Crunchy moody goodness. Love that beat and the atmospherics. Really got me half way in when beat drops and comes back in. Yeah.
Thanks for dedicating to WB significant others, they are saints.

Thanks!  That middle section is supposed to be like the sun rising after a dark night.  Glad you felt it.

Coauctor wrote:

Pretty groovy! The track got me as it is. I feel like I need nothing more in the track to enjoy it.
Also, the mastering is okay, not loud.

Thank you!  Your validation really sets me at ease.  This is why I love WB!

Ryan wrote:

I dig the vinyl intro/outro, matches those gritty sounds which really fatten this track up. Nice work.

Thanks!

NWSPR wrote:

Got a great beat. I like the somber element of the that bell tone (FM synthy sound) progression that repeats throughout most of the track.  I don't think the vinyl scratches are necessary. Or they may be too hot in the mix. Otherwise mix sounds solid. It's very clean and I think, If I may presume, that you are trying to dirty it up or warm it up a bit with either considering the movie samples or using the vinyl sounds. I'm totally guessing at this based on the warm, beautiful overdriven and lo fi sounds used in some of your other tracks. Strings worked out well!

Thanks for this excellent detailed review!  Sounds like we are on the same page of what worked and what didn't.  Going to make a few changes before this gets an album release.

Podling wrote:

Love the crunchy beats, the droney bass, the crackles, the simplicity... you did good kid, you did real good

LOL - that really made me smile smile

rdomain wrote:

Dig the bit crushed beats and that overbearing 2 note bass line with the solid backbeat that comes in.  The vinyl crackle didn't sound warm enough to me.  It's an overused thing so has to be executed very well to make it worthwhile.  I really like the driven guitar tone at the end but the clean one not as much.  Still works fine tho!

I agree with your remarks and am going to make some changes.  Going to remove the vinyl and do some remixing of the guitars.  Thanks for your great critique!

m2K7 wrote:

I agree wto.
This Song reminds me of an earthview from the ISS

Nice!

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