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the runner (acid daddy live)

By neon liminal on April 14, 2024 8:18 pm

Hoo boy this was a week.

M8 is on album-prep duty, so I decided to dive into a live setup for this week's track. Digitakt as drums and brain, Bass Station II on acid bass, Norand Mono on echo-y acid-lead-things, along with Zoia and Microcosm for some cheap and dirty effects. It turned out well. I just didn't have the energy/mind to actually film the live performance, but maybe I'll do that soonish.

The temptation with the Digitakt is always to use Overbridge and multi-track out the drums, which is great for refining a mix and doing sjidechaining and whatnot - but it really fucks all the work you do on the Digitakt. Basically removes all the effects and you gotta do your mix and sound design all over again. I'm not sure why I keep falling into this trap. It's live - make it live.

So finally this afternoon I did a few live takes with the Digitakt fully mixed, little adjustment after recording, and I think I got a good result. And yes! All one live take with me flailing my arms around turning knobs and shit.

A few random notes/things I learned:
- never used Song mode on the Digitakt before. It's pretty damn good, and I limited by screwups by restricting myself to a single pattern of one bar for everything, and using conditionals to add accents. The lesson learned here though is that if you plan to use Song mode, you really gotta plan everything ahead with Song mode in mind.
- Bass Station II is wonderful sounding but its midi implementation has limitations - most notably you can't trigger the arp via midi. This really made me sad cuz I was having a lot of fun just live adlibbing with the arp settings and like ... wasn't gonna happen.
- Norand Mono is a very deep synth. Sorta wish the knobs were smoother and bigger.
- my biggest limitation / wall is time. I can fuck around on the M8 for two minutes while I'm doing other things. Can't really run up to the studio to fuck around on live equipment for 2 mins very often during the day.

I'm seriously thinking about getting a Cyclone Bass Bot as a cheap and dirty 303 clone, but if anyone has other suggestions that aren't exceedingly expensive/fugitive, I am open to advice!

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Ha, I have realized this pretty quickly: Overbridge is a trap. I also don't use it with my Analog Rytm as the master distortion and compressor are only available on the main outputs, and I heavily depend on them as they glue all tracks, so it really sounds like a drum kit and not just a bunch of unrelated drum sounds.

Plus, I don't know about you but for me Overbridge is introducing rather terrible latency, over 30ms. The rest of my setup allows for sub-5ms roundtrip latency so I can still record MIDI live, and sequence other hardware gear without timing issues. So analog outputs it is for me!

As for song mode, in Analog Rytm you have "kits" so you dial in the sound of the kit per entire song, even if there's multiple patterns. And then you have to put per-pattern changes as per-step p-locks (or use a different kit for a given pattern, which you can do). I like that setup much better than Digitakt's implicit kit-per-pattern behavior.

That Bass Station acid sounds delicious in your track! These days I'm using my Circuit Mono Station less often but you reminded me that I should connect it again. To me that's like a BSII with the Circuit sequencer (which IMO is vastly superior to a 303-style sequencer). It's not exactly pocketable but it's small enough that you can put it on a desk next to a laptop. And if you already have an M8, nothing will beat the portability of that. Maybe an iPad with Troublemaker or Pure Acid?

this track really goes! feels really full and always fun and interesting. got me moving that's for sure. nice one!

Really dig the brooding feeling of this track.  Some dirty acid lines are always a winner too.  Great how the track builds and changes progression.

yaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

rplktr wrote:

Ha, I have realized this pretty quickly: Overbridge is a trap.
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That Bass Station acid sounds delicious in your track! These days I'm using my Circuit Mono Station less often but you reminded me that I should connect it again. To me that's like a BSII with the Circuit sequencer (which IMO is vastly superior to a 303-style sequencer). It's not exactly pocketable but it's small enough that you can put it on a desk next to a laptop. And if you already have an M8, nothing will beat the portability of that. Maybe an iPad with Troublemaker or Pure Acid?

Overbridge *is* a trap. Every time I imagine a scenario in which it'd be useful it takes less than a minute of thought to realize all the problems it would introduce. I haven't experienced the latency issue you talked about, however I have noticed it doesn't play well with "Delay compensation" or "Reduced latency while monitoring" in Ableton - that might not be what's happening on your end but worth checking.

I own a Circuit Mono and I love it, and the sequencer, and the three distortion flavours (distortion in my drug of choice), but what I don't love it for is performing "live" - no dedicated. ENV>Cutoff knob (a 303 standard), only one ADSR (BS2 has a dedicated mod envelope), no mod wheel, I think only one LFO? etc... and navigating the mod matrix while performing isn't very practical. And I agree - the BS2 always sounds DELICIOUS - but it's a lot of these performance aspects that make it so tasty.

Gonna look into Troublemaker and Pure Acid meanwhile, cuz I have an extra iPad and audio interface, hilariously.


nedsferatu wrote:

this track really goes! feels really full and always fun and interesting. got me moving that's for sure. nice one!

Thanks, that's great to hear - half my reason for all the techno is to learn how to 'move' people with music smile


rdomain wrote:

Really dig the brooding feeling of this track.  Some dirty acid lines are always a winner too.  Great how the track builds and changes progression.

Thanks! I'm actually aiming for more 'brooding' with the 'live' stuff, I love my big dumb techno but sometimes the 909 kit just falls right into happy bouncy dancing land lol.

jwh wrote:

yaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

YAAHHHHHHHHHHRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNYAYYYYYYYYYY

Great performance, always something happening
- Ebrit

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