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9th Floor

By Napear on July 28, 2024 11:54 pm

Huh... it seems like in 30 weeks, this is the first time things actually went to plan... I made the thing I meant to, it came out roughly as expected, and nothing broke in the process... ( •̀ᴗ•́ )و This is the fourth of the ambient series I have been working on for the last month, and it may be the final one in the series... I have a vague idea for a fifth, but I don't actually know what I would do to realize it... so might be back to electronic or orchestral music for a couple weeks to come... but I digress. 

This track is inspired by idea of Lake Cocytus... enjoy the Google rabbit hole for those who aren't familiar.  The core sound is samples of a freezing lake that (h.t. to DonutShoes) is bounced of the MOON with Hainbach's latest colab with Audio Thing.  I pinched the samples from a Jonna Jinton video which is crazy entrancing.  These sounds always used to freaked me out as a kid, so they seem perfect for what I was hoping to get at with this piece. 

I will say that I was really surprised how harmonious writing in Locrian actually was... I have never worked with that mode before, because everyone's always like "... oh and Locrian exists, but you don't have to care about that cause it's useless..." but it's not as icky as I expected... and in a world were it's really easy to produce a very long sustained drone that doesn't change it's pitch, setting and keeping the root isn't as hard as it would be if one were composing for like a 15th century string quartet or whatever... but again, I digress. 

For anyone who want's to use this for something... first, I wish you the best of luck... it's in C Locrian (but you might find a way in through Bb minor), and it's at 99 bpm... but it moves around a LOT tempo wise.  Also the lake sounds go from around 100 hz to like 7 khz so mixing around them is... um... not for the faint hearted.  But as always feel free to tag me in anything you make with it... It's been very cool hearing what others have done with these so far. 

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It definitely feels icky tho, very goopy
- Ebrit

Devieus wrote:

It definitely feels icky tho, very goopy
- Ebrit

LOL, that's like EXACTLY what my wife said... she said it sounded like something "gloopy" was coming for her... 

LOL HI WE WORKED TOGETHER AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU

smile  I obviously have to listen to all your stuff (including this) but AWESOME JOB on the jwh collaboration!  Great to make a new WB friend heart

I feel like we work at the same restaurant and you're a cook and i'm a waiter and I was interacting with your work all week but didn't even say hi to you on break lol

(and technically i'm getting tips because your food is good woops big_smile)

orangedrink wrote:

LOL HI WE WORKED TOGETHER AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU

smile  I obviously have to listen to all your stuff (including this) but AWESOME JOB on the jwh collaboration!  Great to make a new WB friend heart

I feel like we work at the same restaurant and you're a cook and i'm a waiter and I was interacting with your work all week but didn't even say hi to you on break lol

(and technically i'm getting tips because your food is good woops big_smile)


Lol, that's a great analogy... though it very much undervalues how much you added to the track... those drums... (⋆ˆ ³ ˆ)ʋ <--- :chef's kiss:  And thanks... though JWH deserve 98.75% of the credit there... all I did for the colab was offer a few mixing tips a long the way.  So much less a cook in the kitchen an much more a farmer growing apples... like it may have been a fine apple, but Josh was the one who saw how to make it into such a lovely pie. 

dammit i'm too tired to be inspired

shakes fist in Napear's general direction

Napear wrote:
orangedrink wrote:


I feel like we work at the same restaurant and you're a cook and i'm a waiter and I was interacting with your work all week but didn't even say hi to you on break lol

Lol, that's a great analogy... though it very much undervalues how much you added to the track... those drums... (⋆ˆ ³ ˆ)ʋ <--- :chef's kiss:  And thanks... though JWH deserve 98.75% of the credit there... all I did for the colab was offer a few mixing tips a long the way.  So much less a cook in the kitchen an much more a farmer growing apples... like it may have been a fine apple, but Josh was the one who saw how to make it into such a lovely pie.

[b]and now i want PIE[/B]

big virtual hugs to bolth of youuuuu

and now i want PIE

*shakes fist in Capital B's general direction

jwh wrote:

dammit i'm too tired to be inspired

shakes fist in Napear's general direction

Napear wrote:
orangedrink wrote:


I feel like we work at the same restaurant and you're a cook and i'm a waiter and I was interacting with your work all week but didn't even say hi to you on break lol

Lol, that's a great analogy... though it very much undervalues how much you added to the track... those drums... (⋆ˆ ³ ˆ)ʋ <--- :chef's kiss:  And thanks... though JWH deserve 98.75% of the credit there... all I did for the colab was offer a few mixing tips a long the way.  So much less a cook in the kitchen an much more a farmer growing apples... like it may have been a fine apple, but Josh was the one who saw how to make it into such a lovely pie.

[b]and now i want PIE[/B]

big virtual hugs to bolth of youuuuu

uh oh, if mr. jwh gets inspired we all know what that leads to!  *shakes fist in three directions!* 

mmmm pie.

ooooh i love what you did with the Moon Echo for the goopy parts.  Gave me some X-Filey feels initially but those strings sound so nice.  A bit of tension and beauty hidden in that frozen lake.  Also so cool to see another Jonna Jinton viewer smile I shiver watching those videos sometimes soooo cold!
I admire your orchestrating very mucho and again thank you for growing such fine inspiring apples smile

This is just extremely spooky and increasingly terrifying! Beautiful but also trapped in a sinking submersible watching the windows crack under the pressure as the shadows of tentacled abyssal beings circle in the darkness behind the flickering lights attached to my steel underwater coffin.... a funeral dirge for being buried alive at sea.

A stunningly beautiful dirge at that. A nocturne? Yes, a nocturne. Time to beautifully drown.

Oh boy. Love this. Beautiful, haunting, and alien. Evocative of an alien world with bizarre flora reaching upwards to amorphous alien whales, drifting across an orange sky bellowing strange calls with their otherworldly speech organs.

jwh wrote:

dammit i'm too tired to be inspired

shakes fist in Napear's general direction

big virtual hugs to bolth of youuuuu

LOL, I'm glad you liked it... but you know... please sleep. 

jwh wrote:

and now i want PIE

*shakes fist in Capital B's general direction

Tone Matrix wrote:

uh oh, if mr. jwh gets inspired we all know what that leads to!  *shakes fist in three directions!* 

mmmm pie.

ooooh i love what you did with the Moon Echo for the goopy parts.  Gave me some X-Filey feels initially but those strings sound so nice.  A bit of tension and beauty hidden in that frozen lake.  Also so cool to see another Jonna Jinton viewer smile I shiver watching those videos sometimes soooo cold!
I admire your orchestrating very mucho and again thank you for growing such fine inspiring apples smile

Thanks, that Moon Echo is a neat plugin... little unwieldy... but I guess using the Moon as an echo delays probably shouldn't be expected to be straight forward.  I do love those string sounds... they are mostly from the NI Lores library... just haunting, right out of the box. 

neon liminal wrote:

This is just extremely spooky and increasingly terrifying! Beautiful but also trapped in a sinking submersible watching the windows crack under the pressure as the shadows of tentacled abyssal beings circle in the darkness behind the flickering lights attached to my steel underwater coffin.... a funeral dirge for being buried alive at sea.

A stunningly beautiful dirge at that. A nocturne? Yes, a nocturne. Time to beautifully drown.

I looooooove that imagery... and thank you.  I'm so glad it was evocative in that way.  I was really shooting for something very dark, and I was a little worried (after sitting with it for several hours) that it wasn't tense or foreboding enough.  Seems like my fears were unfounded. 

BarristerPlong wrote:

Oh boy. Love this. Beautiful, haunting, and alien. Evocative of an alien world with bizarre flora reaching upwards to amorphous alien whales, drifting across an orange sky bellowing strange calls with their otherworldly speech organs.

Thank you, and I love that imagery too... I was hope to build out something that felt alien and distorted, while still feeling familiar, but in an unsettling way.  I'm really glad it conjured up what you described. 

Listening to this soundtrack, I find myself deep inside a massive sinister alien mothership that is mostly organic in nature with gooey, dripping and pulsating surfaces with atrocious odors. Probably the incubation chamber, which is vast and warm and ... yes....goopy. There is a very dark and heavy tension in this, but also a hint of optimism, especially with the subtle angelic voices on the outro. Nicely orchestrated. Really love this atmospheric series you've done recently.  You have a real talent for this genre.

Bunjigram wrote:

Listening to this soundtrack, I find myself deep inside a massive sinister alien mothership that is mostly organic in nature with gooey, dripping and pulsating surfaces with atrocious odors. Probably the incubation chamber, which is vast and warm and ... yes....goopy. There is a very dark and heavy tension in this, but also a hint of optimism, especially with the subtle angelic voices on the outro. Nicely orchestrated. Really love this atmospheric series you've done recently.  You have a real talent for this genre.

Thank you so much, I do very much enjoy producing tracks like this, it's just so easy to get lost in the sounds... and that imagery is amazing.  There is nothing more rewarding, than to hear that I sparked someones imagination vividly.  Truly the highest compliment.  ( ◡‿◡ *)

Beautiful and mesmerizing. Had to think of Gavin Bryars „the sinking of the titanic“. Great stuff.

This is hauntingly beautiful! I think its particularly cool that you used samples of something that you find unsettling as a kid, which makes it an even more personal exploration. The violin is stellar here, feels like it's crying.

Great use of those frozen lake samples, I can definitely imagine those would be a real chore to mix, funny that I also came across a different video discussing that same same lake in Sweden a couple weeks ago, had never heard of it before but really cool how they sound so lifelike.  Also well done on that collaboration this week! All of you did a fantastic job.

I don't have better words than - it sounds like a requiem or dirge to something ancient and unknown, like a planet crying.  The textures are stunning, the strings mournful.  This is a beautiful piece of music.  The slightest suggestion of Vangelis in parts.

I've been trying to play around with the Moon Echo after I saw Hainbach's video when it dropped, you've certainly inspired me to try harder with it. 

Q-Rosh wrote:

Beautiful and mesmerizing. Had to think of Gavin Bryars „the sinking of the titanic“. Great stuff.

Yeah, I can hear that now that you mention it.  Opening Pt. I for sure and maybe some bits from the Last Hymn (way in the background). I'm really honored to have made you think of such a powerful piece of muisc, thank you very much. 

ViridianLoom wrote:

This is hauntingly beautiful! I think its particularly cool that you used samples of something that you find unsettling as a kid, which makes it an even more personal exploration. The violin is stellar here, feels like it's crying.

Thanks! Yeah, I grew up on the Iron Range of Minnesota, and in the video below at like 0:50, when the guy on the ice just freezes because from the sound of a crack opening up, that sound still makes my heart rate jump... the "singing" is like a precursor to those cracks.  I remember my uncles skipping rocks across the lake to make that sound, and it was always just so disquieting. 

The strings are a patch from the Lores Kontakt instrument, which is just an incredibly expressive library, like right out of the box.  I find I'm always looking for an excuse to include it in tracks, and this was a perfect one.  So many of the patches are just like "haunting" in a bottle.

Jason Nijjer wrote:

Great use of those frozen lake samples, I can definitely imagine those would be a real chore to mix, funny that I also came across a different video discussing that same same lake in Sweden a couple weeks ago, had never heard of it before but really cool how they sound so lifelike.  Also well done on that collaboration this week! All of you did a fantastic job.

Thanks, and thanks! Yeah, the lake samples presented a few interesting challenges.  I pitched them down quite a lot (and they still get pretty high in frequency from time to time)... but I also have it going through two different delays (including Moon Echo), an they already had a bunch of stereo field movement, so I really just had to start with them, and build the rest of the track around them.  T

lament.config wrote:

I don't have better words than - it sounds like a requiem or dirge to something ancient and unknown, like a planet crying.  The textures are stunning, the strings mournful.  This is a beautiful piece of music.  The slightest suggestion of Vangelis in parts.

I've been trying to play around with the Moon Echo after I saw Hainbach's video when it dropped, you've certainly inspired me to try harder with it.

Thank you so much.  I feel like Vangelis is one of those composers (like Zimmer, or Williams, or Elfman), who's sound almost defines whole genres, and Blade Runner is an extremely influential film for me... so on the one hand I feel deeply unworthy of the comparison, but on the other, I'm honored to think that his work is so much a part of my musical DNA that it shows through.  <(_ _*)>

I've always thought all the modes have their own beauty but locrian is one of the most beautiful ones of all, very nice work and I had to Google cocytus and while I think dantes inferno is pure fiction it fits that idea perfectly! It does feel hellish and close to the evil one himself. Those ice sounds are so haunting and you have accompanied them so well!

Oh I love that Jonna video!!! what a neat source of inspiration... it's so hot here today - it's nice to wander into this frozen souncscape!  It's so hot here it's melting the ice...


Awesome, spooky and beautiful. Love how this sneakily shifts between tense/dissonant sounds and some really lovely, optimistic chord movements.

george bowles wrote:

I've always thought all the modes have their own beauty but locrian is one of the most beautiful ones of all, very nice work and I had to Google cocytus and while I think dantes inferno is pure fiction it fits that idea perfectly! It does feel hellish and close to the evil one himself. Those ice sounds are so haunting and you have accompanied them so well!

Thank you so much... I was a little worried about this one being too... I don't experimental neoclassical I guess... and that by doing the thing I aimed to it would be repellant... so I'm glad that it has landed so well with folks.

emily wrote:

Oh I love that Jonna video!!! what a neat source of inspiration... it's so hot here today - it's nice to wander into this frozen souncscape!  It's so hot here it's melting the ice...

Lol, yeah the sound of lake ice is this very strange thing... because anyone who grew up in the north around lots of water (so like EVERY Minnesotan) has heard that sound a million times, and it just sounds like the beginning of winter... but for people who hear "ice fishing" and their first thought is "why would someone want to fish for ice?!?"  It's like this incredibly alien and unnatural sound... So in envisioning a whole plane of existence that is basically JUST an incomprehensibly enormous frozen lake, my brain was like... ok how do we make that sound even crazier... Then DonutShoes and ToneMatrix (by random happenstance) pointed me at the Hainbach Moon delay... and everything just fell into place.  It's funny how that works sometimes... it's like the music is already out there in the world, and we aren't making it as much as we are discovering. 

Cursory wrote:

Awesome, spooky and beautiful. Love how this sneakily shifts between tense/dissonant sounds and some really lovely, optimistic chord movements.

Thank you, I'm really glad that it registers as beautiful, rather than just creepy.  I'm super glad you picked up on the optimistic/hopeful bits.  I think in keeping with the idea I was shooting for... hopefulness is actually ironically required... Lake Cocytus is frozen, in a roundabout way, because of undying hope... An unrelenting pursuit of freedom IS the prison... but why try to escape, if there is no hope? 

Came here after Josh's song this week. I can see where the inspiration hit him. You did a great job at rendering the 9th circle. I attacked the exact same subject in 2020 when Cities and Memory organized a project called "Inferno" for the 700th anniversary of Dante's work. I went about it differently but I definitely like your cinematic immersive soundscape. I dig it. And yeah, Josh elevated it into perfection!

rplktr wrote:

Came here after Josh's song this week. I can see where the inspiration hit him. You did a great job at rendering the 9th circle. I attacked the exact same subject in 2020 when Cities and Memory organized a project called "Inferno" for the 700th anniversary of Dante's work. I went about it differently but I definitely like your cinematic immersive soundscape. I dig it. And yeah, Josh elevated it into perfection!

Lol, small world, and thanks, I've been having a lot of fun crafting these soundscapes, so I'm glad you liked it, and that it was inspiring to JWH.  Thanks for dropping it and commenting. 

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