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Utopia Town

By Disposable Planet on April 24, 2022 5:31 pm

Started with some saved instruments from my Week 8 track and modified them just enough to be different but still similar enough to make it sound like a companion to that previous track.  A bunch of FMsynths and a wavsynth lead with some macrosynth details here and there.   Channel 1 is the pads, Channel 2-4 are the pseudo delay.  Chan 5 is lead.  Chan 6 is bass.  Drums on 7 and 8.  Kick starts out as a synth and then becomes a sample.  Thanks to tobokegao for the initial patch the snare is based on (from the M8 pack).  Had fun making this one.


On a side note, I just released an EP of three finalized LSDJ tunes from weeklybeats 2022, along with a fourth previously unreleased LSDJ track. The EP is called Surveillance Damage and you can check it out here (sav files are included):  https://disposableplanet.bandcamp.com/album/surveillance-damage



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I can see myself staying here for an extended period of time.
- Spider

yummy fm goodness

Devieus wrote:

I can see myself staying here for an extended period of time.
- Spider

Thanks! Who is Spider and if they're staying I might as well put a pot of coffee on

Phil Harmonic wrote:

yummy fm goodness

M8 FM can be delicious indeed

Disposable Planet wrote:
Devieus wrote:

I can see myself staying here for an extended period of time.
- Spider

Thanks! Who is Spider and if they're staying I might as well put a pot of coffee on


I'm one of Dev's other personalities, we don't like coffee though.
- Spider

The opening is so smooth! cool It makes a good companion piece to Highway 5


Disposable Planet wrote:

A bunch of FMsynths and a wavsynth lead with some macrosynth details here and there.   Channel 1 is the pads, Channel 2-4 are the pseudo delay.  Chan 5 is lead.  Chan 6 is bass.  Drums on 7 and 8.  Kick starts out as a synth and then becomes a sample.


Thanks for including the track breakdowns―I'm always curious how these are put together.  It sounds like I need to learn more about making effective pseudo-delay; mine never sounds this smooth, and since it costs extra tracks I probably don't experiment with it enough.  Do you tend to wait until you're nearly finished to apply it, or do you ferry each update from the main part over to the delayed tracks as you work?

Disposable Planet wrote:

The EP is called Surveillance Damage and you can check it out here (sav files are included):  https://disposableplanet.bandcamp.com/a … nce-damage

heart  (TODO: figure out how to load .savs in emulator-based LSDJ)


Hold on... "Highway 4"...  Highway 5... there was also a Highway 6 on your last album.


Are the Highways counting down to something?

Daaaaang when that beat comes in around 1:20 - epic. I really enjoyed this track! Awesome work! I picked up your EP and listened to it while working today too. Loved it!

I'm curious, how did you capture the M8 screen for this view in your youtube video? I've thought about capturing separate videos of each track being selected then piecing them together that way but that seems tedious lol.

ineff wrote:
Disposable Planet wrote:

The EP is called Surveillance Damage and you can check it out here (sav files are included):  https://disposableplanet.bandcamp.com/a … nce-damage

heart  (TODO: figure out how to load .savs in emulator-based LSDJ)


Hold on... "Highway 4"...  Highway 5... there was also a Highway 6 on your last album.


Are the Highways counting down to something?

it was originally just Highway as a working title cause it reminded me of driving but when I shared it on an M8 meetup, Trash80 read it as "Highway 6" because it was the sixth version.  Later people told me they liked Highway 6 so it stuck.  Then Lain suggested i make a highway EP seeing as Highways 1 through 5 were absent.  So now, whenever i feel like I nail an emotion i'm feeling in a track i call it Highway followed by the next number down.   When I hit zero i can either go into negative integers or count up from 7 i suppose.

iHz wrote:

Daaaaang when that beat comes in around 1:20 - epic. I really enjoyed this track! Awesome work! I picked up your EP and listened to it while working today too. Loved it!

I'm curious, how did you capture the M8 screen for this view in your youtube video? I've thought about capturing separate videos of each track being selected then piecing them together that way but that seems tedious lol.

thanks so much for the support!

i put my phone on a upside down glass and filmed the M8 screen in easter egg mode in a dark room then cropped it and added some effects in a motion graphics program and duplicated it on the right and left after syncing the song audio.

Pretty fantastic orchestration in this -- sounds really do something quite gorgeous together here. Lives up to its name heart

ineff wrote:

The opening is so smooth! cool It makes a good companion piece to Highway 5


Disposable Planet wrote:

A bunch of FMsynths and a wavsynth lead with some macrosynth details here and there.   Channel 1 is the pads, Channel 2-4 are the pseudo delay.  Chan 5 is lead.  Chan 6 is bass.  Drums on 7 and 8.  Kick starts out as a synth and then becomes a sample.


Thanks for including the track breakdowns―I'm always curious how these are put together.  It sounds like I need to learn more about making effective pseudo-delay; mine never sounds this smooth, and since it costs extra tracks I probably don't experiment with it enough.  Do you tend to wait until you're nearly finished to apply it, or do you ferry each update from the main part over to the delayed tracks as you work?

Thanks yeah it works with Highway 5 - that makes me feel good that other people can hear the similarities and vibe

i wrote a long response detailing the pseudodelay but later when i reread it i realized there were some mistakes in it - so here is the explanation again corrected.

The pseudodelay in this track was the second thing to be done (after the FM chords in channel one).   I made an 8 phrase empty chain in channel 2 and then slim cloned it into channel 3 and 4.    then in those chan 3 and 4 new cloned chains i added a single phrase before the 8 phrases in each one.   In that first new phrase I hopped after 3 steps in channel 3 and then after 6 steps in channel 4.    Then lowered the track volume in channel 3 by 16 and in channel 4 by 32.   This way the original chain is set to repeat after 3 steps and 6 steps respectively at a lower volume (the instrument hard pans too).   This allows me to "jam out" in the first chain on channel 2 and it will auto delay if i Shift Play.   Its a great way to test out note combos and repeating melodies while actually hearing the delay.   Even just random note info can sound really good too depending on how much negative space there is in the composition to let the pseudodelay shine.    I tend to cluster notes in the beginning of a phrase and leave space near the end so I can hear them ring out.      This is a fairly basic pseudodelay which is not being programmed in a more ingenious fashion - the only caveat is that if i start the song in the middle all the channels play simultaneously and the delay is not active.   Gotta start from the top to hear it.   You give up 3 channels to do this but with more work it would be possible to fit in two channels or even one depending on the notes and how many phrases you want to use.  Thats my breif breakdown - sorry if i may have repeated to you stuff you already know or have figured out already.

Disposable Planet wrote:

I made an 8 phrase empty chain in channel 2 and then slim cloned it into channel 3 and 4.    then in those chan 3 and 4 new cloned chains i added a single phrase before the 8 phrases in each one.   In that first new phrase I hopped after 3 steps in channel 3 and then after 6 steps in channel 4.    Then lowered the track volume in channel 3 by 16 and in channel 4 by 32.   This way the original chain is set to repeat after 3 steps and 6 steps respectively at a lower volume (the instrument hard pans too).   This allows me to "jam out" in the first chain on channel 2 and it will auto delay if i Shift Play.   Its a great way to test out note combos and repeating melodies while actually hearing the delay.

Thanks for the explanation—the extra phrase + hop are brilliant!  It is so much more efficient than every other way I have seen.


Disposable Planet wrote:

This is a fairly basic pseudodelay which is not being programmed in a more ingenious fashion

…"more ingenious"?  ಠ.ಠ

ineff wrote:
Disposable Planet wrote:

I made an 8 phrase empty chain in channel 2 and then slim cloned it into channel 3 and 4.    then in those chan 3 and 4 new cloned chains i added a single phrase before the 8 phrases in each one.   In that first new phrase I hopped after 3 steps in channel 3 and then after 6 steps in channel 4.    Then lowered the track volume in channel 3 by 16 and in channel 4 by 32.   This way the original chain is set to repeat after 3 steps and 6 steps respectively at a lower volume (the instrument hard pans too).   This allows me to "jam out" in the first chain on channel 2 and it will auto delay if i Shift Play.   Its a great way to test out note combos and repeating melodies while actually hearing the delay.

Thanks for the explanation—the extra phrase + hop are brilliant!  It is so much more efficient than every other way I have seen.


Disposable Planet wrote:

This is a fairly basic pseudodelay which is not being programmed in a more ingenious fashion

…"more ingenious"?  ಠ.ಠ


haha i did not come up with this extra phrase hop thing - its an old LSDJ trick - but some put all their delay in a single channel depending on the phrasing and its pretty astounding

that snare is actually amazing.  really emulating an actual snare - I love it.

kick drum is awesome and I love the modulation of the lead as it solos.

don't think I didn't catch that detune at 2:48 and don't think I didn't lose my mind!


Disposable Planet wrote:

and if they're staying I might as well put a pot of coffee on

lol that is so cute

Oh man this is so good. The percussion fits so well

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