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Pathogen Pawn

By Tone Matrix on June 26, 2022 3:39 pm

this looked much smaller when I was uploading in the morning... now that I've had a few hours til the upload goes live, I'm wondering if I've said too much so i do apologize for the length of this "description".  But I think in the end I needed to let this out.  You can just listen to the music and not worry about having to comment on what's below but it will give you some extra backstory to who I am.  I don't have many friends... but I've considered this community to be one big happy friend since I joined WB in 2014.... so here goes muffin.
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Seriously was not feeling any energy or motivation to work on anything this week. 
Let's not sugarcoat it... Between the state of this pathetic government and my own mental state it's been one shitty week.  I sought some medical advice/help this week and instead had my request ignored completely and turned into a "let me prescribe you something" sales pitch.   

I apologize in advance but I feel pretty close to most of you on here just from all the music, laughs & ideas we've shared thru the years. 
I've been struggling with depression and anxiety for most of my life but in the past ten years it's become a bit uncontrollable.  Without WB I probably would have spiraled even further. 
My problem lately is feeling like an insurance number to most of the doctors and specialists I've seen.  If you tell a medical professional "I do not want meds because I do not trust myself around them anymore".   You would hope they understand you and try to take a different approach.  Instead they just nodded their head and read a bunch of generic questions that I got asked about a month ago. Ya know the "do you sleep, do you eats?"  Again I told them "No thank you, Pill_pusha" and left feeling worse and hopeless.

Two hours later my pharmacy called me with a new prescription for antidepressants.  *facepalm* 
Also I know that medication can help some people with the right care but let's just say it does NOT work for me.
The doc ignoring me I realize is a small thing but it just compounded on top of everything going on.

In so many words in 2012 I almost gave up.... I don't want to trigger anyone or even myself but it wasn't something I was proud of.  I stumbled some more and really haven't bounced back to the point where I feel like myself again.  The only thing that has helped create more positivity and the feeling of productivity is my family and this community. 
So I'm not sure exactly why I am puking this out now but I guess it's been that type of week where you just feel like you need to let it all !@#$ing out. The friends closest to me have had enough and been pushed away.  That is something I still haven't learned how to move on from.  I'm trying each day but it's the little things like that doctor ignoring my plea or the rabid increase in hate in this country that bring me down even more. 
I didn't want to open Ableton this week.  I didn't want to sit down at the keyboard.  Thankfully I did.

I accidentally listened to an old 'show_opener' track I did for the quasi-nu-metal band I used to be in back in 2000. 
That was technically the last time I got to play a live show and perform in front of people.  Nothing huge just your typical dive bar in a college town, Gainesville, Florida. But it was probably the highlight of my short lived performing career.  We all wanted to be the next Linkin Park, Spineshank, Staind, etc kind of band.  I mashed my keyboard with a white noise preset and played with the pitch and filters sounding like a fake turntable while my friends rocked out with their drums, bass, guitars and raging vocals.
The intro was my favorite part of the show because I was the geek on stage with my mini vangelis rig (jk it was 2 keyboards with a towel underneath for support lol) I'd play spooky movie samples on my EMU ESI32 sampler (with a Zip drive!) and open with a 2-3min instrumental while the fog machine fogged on.  Each lil pad sweep you hear was meant to serve as place marker for each band member entering the stage. Yes I watched way too many concert videos..  Oh and yes we all wore big hoodies and hid under the hoods.  At least I did because it was one size too big.  We stopped one step short of trying to be Slipknot I think lol.  Angsty college kids *shrug*.

Soooo finally getting to the point.... This track is mainly that intro track but I recycled some parts and also had to chop up the movie sample at the end for copyright purposes of course (but left the important phrase I guess you can say).  The sparse piano was added today.  So it's kind of a collaboration between young_angsty_naive_me and old...
I miss that young naive feeling I had back then.  The cocky kid back then thought he was on his way to becoming a film composer/hardcore keyboard player lol.
So take some old angst and turn it into new I guess is what I went for.  With a dash of hopelessness and paprika. 

I'll be fine.  I just need some sleep. 
Oh and for those curious.. the band was called Pathogen.
Thank you for taking this awkward exhaustive trip down memory lane.  Next week's story will be one sentence!
To anyone who relates just a bit, high fives and hugs to you.


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dear tone matrix

thank you for letting it all out - things are really intense right now

i love the musical conversation with old you - it feels very reaching through time and space

i was REEAALLY hoping that there would be a live myspace page with pictures of your towl rig & you in your hoodie but when i searched for Pathogen in Gainsville but it was mostly links to pathogens in Gainesville... eeeew

high fives and hugs back

I think I could follow your muffin. As I hear your gifted talent for extraordinary music (such as this track), I really hope you find a ballance between your ups and downs. Beeing sceptical about the general medicine programm is a good standing, because there must be a alternative way for you without chemicals. the lack of motivation is something that hits me the same at this moment, but somehow it goes on with paprika or something else. My musical past is something I also like to revisit, even use the old equipment that I stored for 30 years or longer. However, I am very glad to follow you since 2014, there was supergood stuff from you blown out.
Keep on rocking, my friend.

It's hard to imagine anyone doing totally well with the state of things right now and if you're already prone to anxiety or depression it's extra rough.  I'm glad you're pressing on with making music even through it all.  I feel like the act of creation is always a hopeful act and I personally feel like I'm still able to keep going as long as I can maintain even a sliver of hopefulness.  It's definitely hard sometimes.  I also think it's nice to look back on our musical pasts.  It's cool to see where we came from and get in touch with what made us want to do this in the first place.

I hope you figure out something that works for you! It sucks when doctors don't listen, I've literally told doctors about drugs I can't take because of drug interactions, just for them to just prescribe said drug to me seconds later with a clueless look on their face. Sometimes you have to just keep looking for new doctors who do get it, but also keep advocating for yourself and your specific needs, and maybe find your own way, and maybe some other people who share your same issues who might be able to help as well. And keep wb-ing!

We live on weird times where it is very difficult to just be in peace.

First - this track was great, love those noises, ambiance is spot on.

And now, the personal part. Not that many people knows this, but I am bipolar. I am lucky enough to rarely feel that much anxiety, but I know what not being well feels like (and I suspect all of us do at some point of our life) I had my up and downs...

Medication. It has been multiple years that I do not take anything anymore, but it was necessary to me at a point in my life. However, nothing is perfect, sometimes my way to release pressure is to abuse of alcool.

Did that this year once right after some sanitary restrictions were released on a bar, then had no judgment anymore and took the car back home. Thankfully, I didn't crash, didn't hit anyone but police did caught me and I'll have a criminal record soon (40 years old, not a thing I am proud of)

I try to get over this, but it takes a lot from me. (Energy, stress, money, shame, having to still be well enough for the family)

But this happened to many other people, this is all right. It will be what it will be. Just big piles of money to a lawyer, probably a year without driving a car. It is ok, I prefer to bike.

I don't want to become heavy so I'll just say that YES SLEEPING is one of the best remedy to reconstruct. Trying to eat well, to go outside, to exercise. To "force" yourself to create a little track for us...

I try to have as much fun as possible with the kids, to do a little track every week, I do try to play with my friends of Bertrude too, but this is tough those past months...

Health system is far to be great here up north either.

Anyways!!! Take care. I really appreciate your tracks and hope you'll be fine.

Rock!

Thank you for the long background description. It was very interesting to read! I love the idea that you took a part of the intro of the show and used that as a seed for your track. It is like building a bridge through time and reconnecting through the feelings, hopes, thoughts at the time. Like a smell can bring some very vivid memories, some tracks can do that too. There are some tracks that when I listen to them, I am transported back to the mid 90s when I was doing mountain bike in the hills of southern France. And i can relate so much to your description of playing live and having big dreams. My friends and I were doing the same around the same time (except we'd open our shows singing "carmina burana" a capella with cat meows, don't ask). The depth of this track and how important it resonates with you makes it more precious and interesting to listen to.

It is very good that you share the struggle you're feeling. And I agree that medications are definitely not the right way to address them, but it's hard to address it right away. I have found that for me listening to people who help out people who suffer is very helpful - I love Gabor Mate, a medical doctor and psychologist, who brings a profund humility and humanity in his conversations. You can check him on youtube or read some of his books (like "In the realm of Hungry Ghosts"). I hope you can find your own way out, and never feel bad sharing what you are thinking and feeling!

Great recycle/refresh of old material, really enjoyed this one with all the radio chatter and brilliant use of noise.  There is so much negativity floating around right now, I’m glad you shared what you did, I think everyone can relate to some degree.  Have to find the positive and find little things to refresh/recharge the mind each week, for me it has been weeklybeats and riding my bike both summer and winter.  I have set aside time each Friday morning to ride my bike, for myself this has been a huge help to balance things in life.  I’m glad weekly beats has played a role in helping you as well, keep bringing us this dope music each week!

I hear you. Doctors are a pain the ass and many just want a shortcut. Few listen. Hopefully music is somewhat of an outlet even if it can be difficult to rally the motivation each week. We definitely have a friendly community and friends here on WBs, of which I am happy to be one smile

But, Damn, now I'm completely intrigued by your past life metal side! Now, I see hints of it around the fringes of your darker piano pieces.  And, since I am a native Florigander, born in Cocoa Beach and grown up in Winter Park, I curious about your Florida shows. I have been to and played in Gainesville, FL many times. I have two siblings and a nephew that went to UF and I saw my first Devo concert at the campus amphitheater.  Wish we could have crossed paths but I think I got about 20 years on ya... I was there in the 80s and 90s doing my silly and naive punk rock shows before the nu metal scene.

Love the noise samples and general glitchyness.  This would make an awesome show opener.  Keep on rock'in and don't let the bastards hold you down!

djippy wrote:

I try to get over this, but it takes a lot from me. (Energy, stress, money, shame, having to still be well enough for the family)

tonematrix & djippy - thank you for being vulnerable

thought this might be of interest

“Vulnerability is the birthplace of innovation, creativity and change.”
― Brene Brown

“What happens when people open their hearts?"
"They get better.”
― Haruki Murakami

heart

emily wrote:

dear tone matrix

thank you for letting it all out - things are really intense right now

i love the musical conversation with old you - it feels very reaching through time and space

i was REEAALLY hoping that there would be a live myspace page with pictures of your towl rig & you in your hoodie but when i searched for Pathogen in Gainsville but it was mostly links to pathogens in Gainesville... eeeew

high fives and hugs back

Q-Rosh wrote:

I think I could follow your muffin. As I hear your gifted talent for extraordinary music (such as this track), I really hope you find a ballance between your ups and downs. Beeing sceptical about the general medicine programm is a good standing, because there must be a alternative way for you without chemicals. the lack of motivation is something that hits me the same at this moment, but somehow it goes on with paprika or something else. My musical past is something I also like to revisit, even use the old equipment that I stored for 30 years or longer. However, I am very glad to follow you since 2014, there was supergood stuff from you blown out.
Keep on rocking, my friend.

CosmicCairns wrote:

It's hard to imagine anyone doing totally well with the state of things right now and if you're already prone to anxiety or depression it's extra rough.  I'm glad you're pressing on with making music even through it all.  I feel like the act of creation is always a hopeful act and I personally feel like I'm still able to keep going as long as I can maintain even a sliver of hopefulness.  It's definitely hard sometimes.  I also think it's nice to look back on our musical pasts.  It's cool to see where we came from and get in touch with what made us want to do this in the first place.

Ipaghost wrote:

I hope you figure out something that works for you! It sucks when doctors don't listen, I've literally told doctors about drugs I can't take because of drug interactions, just for them to just prescribe said drug to me seconds later with a clueless look on their face. Sometimes you have to just keep looking for new doctors who do get it, but also keep advocating for yourself and your specific needs, and maybe find your own way, and maybe some other people who share your same issues who might be able to help as well. And keep wb-ing!

djippy wrote:

We live on weird times where it is very difficult to just be in peace.

First - this track was great, love those noises, ambiance is spot on.

And now, the personal part. Not that many people knows this, but I am bipolar. I am lucky enough to rarely feel that much anxiety, but I know what not being well feels like (and I suspect all of us do at some point of our life) I had my up and downs...

Medication. It has been multiple years that I do not take anything anymore, but it was necessary to me at a point in my life. However, nothing is perfect, sometimes my way to release pressure is to abuse of alcool.

Did that this year once right after some sanitary restrictions were released on a bar, then had no judgment anymore and took the car back home. Thankfully, I didn't crash, didn't hit anyone but police did caught me and I'll have a criminal record soon (40 years old, not a thing I am proud of)

I try to get over this, but it takes a lot from me. (Energy, stress, money, shame, having to still be well enough for the family)

But this happened to many other people, this is all right. It will be what it will be. Just big piles of money to a lawyer, probably a year without driving a car. It is ok, I prefer to bike.

I don't want to become heavy so I'll just say that YES SLEEPING is one of the best remedy to reconstruct. Trying to eat well, to go outside, to exercise. To "force" yourself to create a little track for us...

I try to have as much fun as possible with the kids, to do a little track every week, I do try to play with my friends of Bertrude too, but this is tough those past months...

Health system is far to be great here up north either.

Anyways!!! Take care. I really appreciate your tracks and hope you'll be fine.

Rock!

Kedbreak136 wrote:

Thank you for the long background description. It was very interesting to read! I love the idea that you took a part of the intro of the show and used that as a seed for your track. It is like building a bridge through time and reconnecting through the feelings, hopes, thoughts at the time. Like a smell can bring some very vivid memories, some tracks can do that too. There are some tracks that when I listen to them, I am transported back to the mid 90s when I was doing mountain bike in the hills of southern France. And i can relate so much to your description of playing live and having big dreams. My friends and I were doing the same around the same time (except we'd open our shows singing "carmina burana" a capella with cat meows, don't ask). The depth of this track and how important it resonates with you makes it more precious and interesting to listen to.

It is very good that you share the struggle you're feeling. And I agree that medications are definitely not the right way to address them, but it's hard to address it right away. I have found that for me listening to people who help out people who suffer is very helpful - I love Gabor Mate, a medical doctor and psychologist, who brings a profund humility and humanity in his conversations. You can check him on youtube or read some of his books (like "In the realm of Hungry Ghosts"). I hope you can find your own way out, and never feel bad sharing what you are thinking and feeling!

Jason Nijjer wrote:

Great recycle/refresh of old material, really enjoyed this one with all the radio chatter and brilliant use of noise.  There is so much negativity floating around right now, I’m glad you shared what you did, I think everyone can relate to some degree.  Have to find the positive and find little things to refresh/recharge the mind each week, for me it has been weeklybeats and riding my bike both summer and winter.  I have set aside time each Friday morning to ride my bike, for myself this has been a huge help to balance things in life.  I’m glad weekly beats has played a role in helping you as well, keep bringing us this dope music each week!

NWSPR wrote:

I hear you. Doctors are a pain the ass and many just want a shortcut. Few listen. Hopefully music is somewhat of an outlet even if it can be difficult to rally the motivation each week. We definitely have a friendly community and friends here on WBs, of which I am happy to be one smile

But, Damn, now I'm completely intrigued by your past life metal side! Now, I see hints of it around the fringes of your darker piano pieces.  And, since I am a native Florigander, born in Cocoa Beach and grown up in Winter Park, I curious about your Florida shows. I have been to and played in Gainesville, FL many times. I have two siblings and a nephew that went to UF and I saw my first Devo concert at the campus amphitheater.  Wish we could have crossed paths but I think I got about 20 years on ya... I was there in the 80s and 90s doing my silly and naive punk rock shows before the nu metal scene.

Love the noise samples and general glitchyness.  This would make an awesome show opener.  Keep on rock'in and don't let the bastards hold you down!


First off I apologize for the delay in replying.  I must admit I was half regretting puking all of that out.  Or at least I was unreasonably fearing the reaction. 
I know now for sure not to be afraid because so many have you expressed your personal battles and advice.  Without getting too mushy, you all made me an emotional ginger at 5am.  I relate to a lot of your comments and it really does help to read and not feel so alone in my head. 

Since some of you were curious about the Gainesville version of Pathogen.  I'm going to attempt to embed or at least post the link to 3:52 video I made back in 2019 for a contest to get accepted to Gonzales' Gonzervatory.  Basically he held a contest to have musicians/performers come study with him for 1-2 weeks.  He's a piano virtuoso basically so it would have been awesome to be accepted.  Sadly I didn't make the cut nor do I think i really had a chance compared to the winners.  The video requirements basically asked for you to describe your musical background and such.  So all of the videos were these short "this is your life" videos.
The towel underneath the keyboard goes back to even high school.  I'm not sure why the hell I put it there to be honest.  Maybe I figured the keyboard wouldn't slip off?  I don't think I thought that through lol.

Thank you again for taking the time to share your personal stories.  I really am thankful for this supportive and caring WB community. 
Oh and Emily, that's a beautiful quote smile

“What happens when people open their hearts?"
"They get better.”
― Haruki Murakami

Here's the link to the private youtube video.. i think it will work with a direct link.. If there are any problems loading it let me know and I'll make it public.
Thanks again everyone! smile  If I screwed up the embed (cuz I always do) the copy/paste is https://youtu.be/0BUcn1yFqUc

heart

annnnd i can already see the private thang don't work.. ok de-private it goes

NWSPR wrote:


But, Damn, now I'm completely intrigued by your past life metal side! Now, I see hints of it around the fringes of your darker piano pieces.  And, since I am a native Florigander, born in Cocoa Beach and grown up in Winter Park, I curious about your Florida shows. I have been to and played in Gainesville, FL many times. I have two siblings and a nephew that went to UF and I saw my first Devo concert at the campus amphitheater.  Wish we could have crossed paths but I think I got about 20 years on ya... I was there in the 80s and 90s doing my silly and naive punk rock shows before the nu metal scene.

Awesome yeah I was there from 97-2000ish.  Eventually made it to Orlando (Altamonte Springs & Winter Park) around 2003-2006.  So I definitely know that area.  That's awesome you saw Devo in G'ville!  I'm trying to remember if I saw any big time bands then.  For us it was thinking we were going to play with one of our musical inspos at the time "Spineshank" lol.  Their drum rise couldn't fit on the Purple Porpoise stage so they canceled the show after we had radio ads and everything saying we were opening for them.  Our tiny band hopes were crushed.  Also cuz we didn't even get to meet them.  They dropped of 2 signed posters and were a figment of our imagination from then on smile  *sad horn*

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