This spirit woke up dead and choose violence. Very heated. Very nice.
- Devieus

This spirit woke up dead and choose violence. Very heated. Very nice. - Devieus

super hype track!  great arpeggio that goes places I don't expect it to.  what did you make this on?

mix/master is really strong

o m g
1:32 was totally unexpected.  what the heck?  this might be my favorite track of yours.  uh, how did you write this to make it sound so......wrong and write at the same time?  is there a key change or something?  i'm trying to learn music theory next year

super hype track! great arpeggio that goes places I don't expect it to. what did you make this on? mix/master is really strong o m g 1:32 was totally unexpected. what the heck? this might be my favorite track of yours. uh, how did you write this to make it sound so......wrong and write at the same time? is there a key change or something? i'm trying to learn music theory next year :)

It switched into the B section at that point .. the whole A section alternates between B minor and its parallel major .. really all you have to do to change keys is play a chord that is in both keys or has at least a couple of notes in common with the key or mode you are targeting ..the more notes that have a voice leading tone .. the stronger the pull to another key .. the V7 to I ( perfect cadence) is the strongest way to change key because it’s like the triple Wammy of voice leading .. but really I try not to think of things in terms of key or mode .. i try to just go with what feels right .. different cadences feel different ways and are more powerful and so on .. same thing with scales and their modes

[quote=orangedrink]super hype track! great arpeggio that goes places I don't expect it to. what did you make this on? mix/master is really strong o m g 1:32 was totally unexpected. what the heck? this might be my favorite track of yours. uh, how did you write this to make it sound so......wrong and write at the same time? is there a key change or something? i'm trying to learn music theory next year :)[/quote] It switched into the B section at that point .. the whole A section alternates between B minor and its parallel major .. really all you have to do to change keys is play a chord that is in both keys or has at least a couple of notes in common with the key or mode you are targeting ..the more notes that have a voice leading tone .. the stronger the pull to another key .. the V7 to I ( perfect cadence) is the strongest way to change key because it’s like the triple Wammy of voice leading .. but really I try not to think of things in terms of key or mode .. i try to just go with what feels right .. different cadences feel different ways and are more powerful and so on .. same thing with scales and their modes

This is so helpful!  Just saved it on my computer as "awesome music theory thing phil harmonic" and I will try to revisit it once I get some stuff under my belt.

How did you learn music theory?  Any recommendations for someone just starting out?

[quote=Phil Harmonic][quote=orangedrink]super hype track! great arpeggio that goes places I don't expect it to. what did you make this on? mix/master is really strong o m g 1:32 was totally unexpected. what the heck? this might be my favorite track of yours. uh, how did you write this to make it sound so......wrong and write at the same time? is there a key change or something? i'm trying to learn music theory next year :)[/quote] It switched into the B section at that point .. the whole A section alternates between B minor and its parallel major .. really all you have to do to change keys is play a chord that is in both keys or has at least a couple of notes in common with the key or mode you are targeting ..the more notes that have a voice leading tone .. the stronger the pull to another key .. the V7 to I ( perfect cadence) is the strongest way to change key because it’s like the triple Wammy of voice leading .. but really I try not to think of things in terms of key or mode .. i try to just go with what feels right .. different cadences feel different ways and are more powerful and so on .. same thing with scales and their modes [/quote] This is so helpful! Just saved it on my computer as "awesome music theory thing phil harmonic" and I will try to revisit it once I get some stuff under my belt. How did you learn music theory? Any recommendations for someone just starting out?

As for what I made the track on .. it’s just flstudio with a couple of drum samples and like 4 instances of korg polysix.. reverb?

[quote=orangedrink]super hype track! great arpeggio that goes places I don't expect it to. what did you make this on? mix/master is really strong o m g 1:32 was totally unexpected. what the heck? this might be my favorite track of yours. uh, how did you write this to make it sound so......wrong and write at the same time? is there a key change or something? i'm trying to learn music theory next year :)[/quote] As for what I made the track on .. it’s just flstudio with a couple of drum samples and like 4 instances of korg polysix.. reverb?

Are yo trolling me?

[quote=orangedrink][quote=Phil Harmonic][quote=orangedrink]super hype track! great arpeggio that goes places I don't expect it to. what did you make this on? mix/master is really strong o m g 1:32 was totally unexpected. what the heck? this might be my favorite track of yours. uh, how did you write this to make it sound so......wrong and write at the same time? is there a key change or something? i'm trying to learn music theory next year :)[/quote] It switched into the B section at that point .. the whole A section alternates between B minor and its parallel major .. really all you have to do to change keys is play a chord that is in both keys or has at least a couple of notes in common with the key or mode you are targeting ..the more notes that have a voice leading tone .. the stronger the pull to another key .. the V7 to I ( perfect cadence) is the strongest way to change key because it’s like the triple Wammy of voice leading .. but really I try not to think of things in terms of key or mode .. i try to just go with what feels right .. different cadences feel different ways and are more powerful and so on .. same thing with scales and their modes [/quote] This is so helpful! Just saved it on my computer as "awesome music theory thing phil harmonic" and I will try to revisit it once I get some stuff under my belt. How did you learn music theory? Any recommendations for someone just starting out?[/quote] Are yo trolling me? :D

lol, no, it's actually helpful to understand that there are ACTUAL things that happened in that B section, that I "felt" in my heart.  I think I knew there was a key change, but I don't have the technical language to sort that out.  So the good news is that my heart/ear know when something happens, and all I have to do is a little(lot) of studying and then I can figure out what it actually is.

Kind of like cooking and knowing when something is spicy, but then going back and learning what are the ingredients that contributed to the spice.

So I did save the comment, and want to revisit it once I get some of the terminology down like "perfect cadence" and "V7 to I" and "parallel major"

So I really was asking about how did you learn.  I am still debating whether to just learn from online courses + books, or to sign up for a collegiate level class, or get a private tutor, or some combination of them all.

lol, no, it's actually helpful to understand that there are ACTUAL things that happened in that B section, that I "felt" in my heart. I think I knew there was a key change, but I don't have the technical language to sort that out. So the good news is that my heart/ear know when something happens, and all I have to do is a little(lot) of studying and then I can figure out what it actually is. Kind of like cooking and knowing when something is spicy, but then going back and learning what are the ingredients that contributed to the spice. So I did save the comment, and want to revisit it once I get some of the terminology down like "perfect cadence" and "V7 to I" and "parallel major" So I really was asking about how did you learn. I am still debating whether to just learn from online courses + books, or to sign up for a collegiate level class, or get a private tutor, or some combination of them all.

Ah ok well in that case : I didnt learn everything all in one place and Im far from classically trained..  it's an ongoing process.. there isnt just one music theory and like everything should be taken with a grain of salt. Things like you mentioned V7 (dominant 7th) etc I just learned because I kept seeing them pop up and wanted to know what they meant. most of the canonized hoity toity Western harmony stuff comes out of a long tradition of gray haired white dudes doing counterpoint.. but popular music as we know it today is an amalgam of all kinds of great stuff from lots of different cultures..  Music theory is really just the study of reasons we think discovered musical phenomenon work to hack the human brain in various ways. I'd say probably at the heart of it all though is the concept of tension and release. Rhythmic tension, harmonic tension, melodic tension. For example, when you do the V7-I cadence (G7 to C in C major) you are building up a shitload of tension with Dominant 7th chord and releasing it by returning to the tonic chord. I wouldnt recommend using the V-I cadence all the time though. it's very strong ,very cliche .. there are plenty of other ways to create tension and release.. Most rock based music tends to gravitate toward plagal cadences anyway (IV - I)...  Anywho, places to learn.. hrrm. youtube is good place to start.. try this playlist..https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P … ncGT7qvO06.. and im always down to discuss this kind of stuff on discord if you want :>

[quote=orangedrink]lol, no, it's actually helpful to understand that there are ACTUAL things that happened in that B section, that I "felt" in my heart. I think I knew there was a key change, but I don't have the technical language to sort that out. So the good news is that my heart/ear know when something happens, and all I have to do is a little(lot) of studying and then I can figure out what it actually is. Kind of like cooking and knowing when something is spicy, but then going back and learning what are the ingredients that contributed to the spice. So I did save the comment, and want to revisit it once I get some of the terminology down like "perfect cadence" and "V7 to I" and "parallel major" So I really was asking about how did you learn. I am still debating whether to just learn from online courses + books, or to sign up for a collegiate level class, or get a private tutor, or some combination of them all.[/quote] Ah ok well in that case :) : I didnt learn everything all in one place and Im far from classically trained.. it's an ongoing process.. there isnt just one music theory and like everything should be taken with a grain of salt. Things like you mentioned V7 (dominant 7th) etc I just learned because I kept seeing them pop up and wanted to know what they meant. most of the canonized hoity toity Western harmony stuff comes out of a long tradition of gray haired white dudes doing counterpoint.. but popular music as we know it today is an amalgam of all kinds of great stuff from lots of different cultures.. Music theory is really just the study of reasons we think discovered musical phenomenon work to hack the human brain in various ways. I'd say probably at the heart of it all though is the concept of tension and release. Rhythmic tension, harmonic tension, melodic tension. For example, when you do the V7-I cadence (G7 to C in C major) you are building up a shitload of tension with Dominant 7th chord and releasing it by returning to the tonic chord. I wouldnt recommend using the V-I cadence all the time though. it's very strong ,very cliche .. there are plenty of other ways to create tension and release.. Most rock based music tends to gravitate toward plagal cadences anyway (IV - I)... Anywho, places to learn.. hrrm. youtube is good place to start.. try this playlist..[url]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMvVESrbjBWplAcg3pG0TesncGT7qvO06[/url].. and im always down to discuss this kind of stuff on discord if you want :>

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That arpeggio is a cool backbone to the track, gives it a kind of synthwave like vibe (especially doubled with the beat), but the synth melody gives it a different atmosphere. I like the energy of this track a lot. <head bopping along>

That arpeggio is a cool backbone to the track, gives it a kind of synthwave like vibe (especially doubled with the beat), but the synth melody gives it a different atmosphere. I like the energy of this track a lot.

Just saved this entire thread on my computer as "Music Theory notes" lol.

[quote=orangedrink]...[/quote] Just saved this entire thread on my computer as "Music Theory notes" lol.