Nice intro. I listened for about 30 sec and busted out my cans. I enjoy the use of guitar, esp at the beginning. Gives the track an "epic" sound. Nice layering; I agree with the improvisational elements. If may *suggest* a bit more time in mix-down : FX are good, but EQ, vol, compression? It sounds like you do some of this already but it just feels like something is missing??? A Tape delay, a tube compressor, some panning i don't know, I can't put my finger on it...
Again, these are only suggestions, and I must say that I'm nit-picking. Compositionally I wouldn't change a thing. It all sounds like it's supposed to be there, ya know. It makes sense where it is, and gels nicely.
Overall, your submissions are very solid. Thanks for your comments. I kept your melody suggestion in mind during week 49 and will continue to in future tracks. Keep up the good work One0.
-BFT

Nice intro. I listened for about 30 sec and busted out my cans. I enjoy the use of guitar, esp at the beginning. Gives the track an "epic" sound. Nice layering; I agree with the improvisational elements. If may *suggest* a bit more time in mix-down : FX are good, but EQ, vol, compression? It sounds like you do some of this already but it just feels like something is missing??? A Tape delay, a tube compressor, some panning i don't know, I can't put my finger on it... Again, these are only suggestions, and I must say that I'm nit-picking. Compositionally I wouldn't change a thing. It all sounds like it's supposed to be there, ya know. It makes sense where it is, and gels nicely. Overall, your submissions are very solid. Thanks for your comments. I kept your melody suggestion in mind during week 49 and will continue to in future tracks. Keep up the good work One0. -BFT

Thanks, BFT!  I did rush a bit to make the deadline, particularly the mixdown, and it's to your credit that you caught that. Listening to it now on my bass-heavy headphones and not the Cambridge Soundworks speakers, I think I overcompressed, and would alter the levels. 

Arrangement, you're probably missing something in the lower mids/higher bass.  There could be an additional melody in that range, probably.

The Moog's a tricky beast to work with, particularly through a distortion--it's voiced very darkly, to hide the bacon-sizzling sound of the sustainer pickups working.  Crank up the treble (as the Ableton amp plugins did, or the Big Muff did), and you've got a bunch of noise to manage. 

Glad my suggestions were helpful, and I'm going to check out your latest piece next.  Thanks again!

Thanks, BFT! I did rush a bit to make the deadline, particularly the mixdown, and it's to your credit that you caught that. Listening to it [i]now[/i] on my bass-heavy headphones and not the Cambridge Soundworks speakers, I think I overcompressed, and would alter the levels. Arrangement, you're probably missing something in the lower mids/higher bass. There could be an additional melody in that range, probably. The Moog's a tricky beast to work with, particularly through a distortion--it's voiced very darkly, to hide the bacon-sizzling sound of the sustainer pickups working. Crank up the treble (as the Ableton amp plugins did, or the Big Muff did), and you've got a bunch of noise to manage. Glad my suggestions were helpful, and I'm going to check out your latest piece next. Thanks again!

For comparison, here's a mix with a few levels fixed, no 2-bus compression (I'd used the soft-knee preset in Ableton's mastering plugins; a mistake I think now), and--inevitably; couldn't help myself--a few drum patterns nudged to start on different beats.
http://onezeromusic.com/wb_Triangles_mix_2.mp3

For comparison, here's a mix with a few levels fixed, no 2-bus compression (I'd used the soft-knee preset in Ableton's mastering plugins; a mistake I think now), and--inevitably; couldn't help myself--a few drum patterns nudged to start on different beats. [url]http://onezeromusic.com/wb_Triangles_mix_2.mp3[/url]

this is awesome. i've never met anyone who actually owns a moog guitar. would love to see some video of it in action.

this is awesome. i've never met anyone who actually owns a moog guitar. would love to see some video of it in action.

There's video of me using it on Vimeo, but you don't really see it clearly, and most of the sound coming out of that video is a Pd patch I'm using to process it.  The Moog is, I think, a work in progress--if you check out what Paul Vo's doing now, it's vibrating the tops of acoustic guitars.  I think that gets around the driver-pickup-hash problem.  It's really kind of its own instrument, an extension of the guitar.  A bit more of my take on it here: http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.ph … mp;t=12951

[quote=preciouskindred]this is awesome. i've never met anyone who actually owns a moog guitar. would love to see some video of it in action.[/quote] There's video of me using it on Vimeo, but you don't really see it clearly, and most of the sound coming out of that video is a Pd patch I'm using to process it. The Moog is, I think, a work in progress--if you check out what Paul Vo's doing now, it's vibrating the tops of acoustic guitars. I think that gets around the driver-pickup-hash problem. It's really kind of its own instrument, an extension of the guitar. A bit more of my take on it here: [url]http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12951[/url]

very cool, i like what you're doing with it. did you catch a glimpse of the KMI string sustainer they are releasing?

http://www.keithmcmillen.com/strongarm

very cool, i like what you're doing with it. did you catch a glimpse of the KMI string sustainer they are releasing? http://www.keithmcmillen.com/strongarm

I totally hadn't seen that.  I doubt it'll do all the stuff the Moog does (all strings on, just the ones you're playing on, mute mode, sweepable harmonic emphasis point), but it's still great to see another take on the six-string-sustainer project.

I totally hadn't seen that. I doubt it'll do all the stuff the Moog does (all strings on, just the ones you're playing on, mute mode, sweepable harmonic emphasis point), but it's still great to see another take on the six-string-sustainer project.

Is very nice, this.
Digging how the beats and guitars work together

Is very nice, this. Digging how the beats and guitars work together

Radical.

Radical.

Lovely guitar work

Lovely guitar work

Is there reversed stuff, or is it just the moog guitar?

Is there reversed stuff, or is it just the moog guitar?

This is awesome!  I love the panicky drum patterns and the guitars are great.  I would love some guitar stems!

- The other guy that named his track Triangles this week. 

This is awesome! I love the panicky drum patterns and the guitars are great. I would love some guitar stems! - The other guy that named his track Triangles this week. ;)

Thanks, everyone!

This one's all just Moog.  There's a little time delay after the pluck, but before the sustainer really gets the string moving, so notes decay a bit before they start swelling again. That's the reverse sound, and it's really pronounced when playing legato lines up or down the same string from the starting note. 

Thanks!  I could totally throw some stems out there. Any preferences?

Thanks, everyone! [quote=7506]Is there reversed stuff, or is it just the moog guitar?[/quote] This one's all just Moog. There's a little time delay after the pluck, but before the sustainer really gets the string moving, so notes decay a bit before they start swelling again. That's the reverse sound, and it's really pronounced when playing legato lines up or down the same string from the starting note. [quote=Ill Storms]This is awesome! I love the panicky drum patterns and the guitars are great. I would love some guitar stems! - The other guy that named his track Triangles this week. ;)[/quote] Thanks! I could totally throw some stems out there. Any preferences?

Anything would be awesome.  Throw some stems out there and I'll see what I can do with them.  Thank you!

Anything would be awesome. Throw some stems out there and I'll see what I can do with them. Thank you!

those are some crazy, sweet drum patterns! well done.

those are some crazy, sweet drum patterns! well done.

A real Moog guitar owner.  A rare beast indeed!  Colour me impressed and jealous
Great track.

At the risk of offending, a little more care with the overall frequency balance... *ducks*

A real Moog guitar owner. A rare beast indeed! Colour me impressed and jealous :D Great track. At the risk of offending, a little more care with the overall frequency balance... *ducks*

Thanks!  No offense taken at all. The first version of this ended up with a weird muffled frequency spectrum from the 2-bus soft-knee compression.  The later version (linked in a comment) is better, but yeah, there's room for improvement.

The Moog is indeed a neat instrument, and yeah, rare.  That said, since they've been discontinued, and I thing generally regarded by most guitar players as not-all-that-desirable (they're voiced darkly, and I don't think they ever caught on as an "image" guitar), you can probably get a relative deal on one.  I've seen ebay listings for the high-end versions going for a third of the price at which they were introduced.  Not exactly a cheap guitar, but going cheaper than they were at first.  (Mine is the relatively proletarian E1--no trem, no MIDI--and it's B-stock, though I'm not sure what flaw mine was supposed to have. Maybe a scratch somewhere or something.)

[quote=MMI]A real Moog guitar owner. A rare beast indeed! Colour me impressed and jealous :D Great track. At the risk of offending, a little more care with the overall frequency balance... *ducks* [/quote] Thanks! No offense taken at all. The first version of this ended up with a weird muffled frequency spectrum from the 2-bus soft-knee compression. The later version (linked in a comment) is better, but yeah, there's room for improvement. The Moog is indeed a neat instrument, and yeah, rare. That said, since they've been discontinued, and I thing generally regarded by most guitar players as not-all-that-desirable (they're voiced darkly, and I don't think they ever caught on as an "image" guitar), you can probably get a relative deal on one. I've seen ebay listings for the high-end versions going for a third of the price at which they were introduced. Not exactly a cheap guitar, but going cheaper than they were at first. (Mine is the relatively proletarian E1--no trem, no MIDI--and it's B-stock, though I'm not sure what flaw mine was supposed to have. Maybe a scratch somewhere or something.)

Great track! I like all the tracks you've posted so far, but this one really stands out to me as a complete track. Nice sounds, nice rhythms, and I love the overall dynamic arc of the composition. Looking forward to hearing more!

Great track! I like all the tracks you've posted so far, but this one really stands out to me as a complete track. Nice sounds, nice rhythms, and I love the overall dynamic arc of the composition. Looking forward to hearing more!

I don't really know much about the Moog guitar but it sounds pretty cool!  Almost Fripp style.  Kickin' beats too.

Now I'm off to google moog guitar.  I think I've only stumbled across it once but since forgot about it.

I don't really know much about the Moog guitar but it sounds pretty cool! Almost Fripp style. Kickin' beats too. Now I'm off to google moog guitar. I think I've only stumbled across it once but since forgot about it.

Awesome track!

Awesome track!

Thanks, Reino!

Yeah, Robert Fripp is definitely an influence.  The classic Fripp tone is that LP through a Guild Foxey (sic) Lady fuzz, which was a Mike Matthews circuit from before he started Electro-Harmonix.  So my 80s Big Muff is pretty darned close, though certainly not exactly the same.  I'm sure there are significant differences  between the Germanium and Silicon transistors, and various capacitor values that changed over the years, and I'm sure tone-sniffers would argue about other critical differences.  But the Big Muff gets me pretty close to that tone, and the infinite sustain simulates RF's trick of putting tape on the studio floor to mark the different places he had to stand to get a certain note to feed back.

Thanks, Reino! [quote=rdomain]I don't really know much about the Moog guitar but it sounds pretty cool! Almost Fripp style. Kickin' beats too.[/quote] Yeah, Robert Fripp is definitely an influence. The classic Fripp tone is that LP through a Guild Foxey (sic) Lady fuzz, which was a Mike Matthews circuit from before he started Electro-Harmonix. So my 80s Big Muff is pretty darned close, though certainly not exactly the same. I'm sure there are significant differences between the Germanium and Silicon transistors, and various capacitor values that changed over the years, and I'm sure tone-sniffers would argue about other critical differences. But the Big Muff gets me pretty close to that tone, and the infinite sustain simulates RF's trick of putting tape on the studio floor to mark the different places he had to stand to get a certain note to feed back.

Kickin track dude. I've not yet used my guitars with ableton but am looking forward to it.

Kickin track dude. I've not yet used my guitars with ableton but am looking forward to it.

Smashin'

Smashin'

Nice one. Thanks for sharing.

Nice one. Thanks for sharing.

Very nice tune

Very nice tune

Thanks, everyone!  I'm pretty happy with this one, mostly.  Due for a tweaking, possibly.

[quote=Lyons]Kickin track dude. I've not yet used my guitars with ableton but am looking forward to it.[/quote] [quote=encym]Smashin'[/quote] [quote=greg.igaya]Nice one. Thanks for sharing.[/quote] [quote=dzorvel]Very nice tune[/quote] Thanks, everyone! I'm pretty happy with this one, mostly. Due for a tweaking, possibly.