love the piece, it has a lot of surprising movements but also some coherency in the melodies, like I can't put my finger on it but there are some cool themes in there. and long fat organ sounds are sooooo nice and therapeutic.

very cool thinking about spreading a bunch of melodies out even if you hear them well in your mind. I was always adept at playing / jamming first and then figuring out what the composition is, but I like the idea to compose more like the classics figuring things out first on paper / in the mind. just for the power that could potentially give you for improvising and composing on the fly, so you can hear more stuff in your head before it actually goes out on the instrument.

that said I can't believe you wrote this before playing it!?!?! seems v intricate and wacky for something that you wrote with a very specific sound in mind. Or was it performed?

love the piece, it has a lot of surprising movements but also some coherency in the melodies, like I can't put my finger on it but there are some cool themes in there. and long fat organ sounds are sooooo nice and therapeutic. very cool thinking about spreading a bunch of melodies out even if you hear them well in your mind. I was always adept at playing / jamming first and then figuring out what the composition is, but I like the idea to compose more like the classics figuring things out first on paper / in the mind. just for the power that could potentially give you for improvising and composing on the fly, so you can hear more stuff in your head before it actually goes out on the instrument. that said I can't believe you wrote this before playing it!?!?! seems v intricate and wacky for something that you wrote with a very specific sound in mind. Or was it performed?

[quote=OleJazzer][quote=horatiuromantic]love the piece, it has a lot of surprising movements but also some coherency in the melodies, like I can't put my finger on it but there are some cool themes in there. and long fat organ sounds are sooooo nice and therapeutic. very cool thinking about spreading a bunch of melodies out even if you hear them well in your mind. I was always adept at playing / jamming first and then figuring out what the composition is, but I like the idea to compose more like the classics figuring things out first on paper / in the mind. just for the power that could potentially give you for improvising and composing on the fly, so you can hear more stuff in your head before it actually goes out on the instrument. that said I can't believe you wrote this before playing it!?!?! seems v intricate and wacky for something that you wrote with a very specific sound in mind. Or was it performed?[/quote] I wrote it out, but I’d also has some improv and performance. It’s difficult for me to get away from improv because I like it so much. I have a philosophy where I believe that music only exist for that moment that either the composer thinks of it and write it down or it’s interpreted by the musician/conductor in conjunction with each other, or somebody just thinks of it and plays it because I don’t believe that we should just play something exactly the same way every time it gets stale then it doesn’t stay music. It stays a representative slice of what was music at the time it was performed. I love to do improv, but I have to throttle back and write things down in order for me to feel like I’m actually composing because but at the same time I have to allow myself a certain amount of room to improvise or I don’t feel like I’m actually creating music if that makes any sense What are the things that we were supposed to do is come up with some sort of random music so many people try different ways to do that in one of the ways that I did it was I put down a painters tarp in my living room. I lived in a house in college that I rented. It had a very large living room room mostly because when you make music if you live in an apartment, you know that’s not gonna work out and I put manuscript paper everywhere and then I had a a pin that you filled up and it had a bulb on the end that you is not a big ball you know what I’m talking about. It’s a fountain pin, but you would put it in the ink can suck up some Ink into it in when you needed more ink you put it in a jar and squeeze the bulb thing and it would suck up more ink with what I did as I went around in a circle without looking at the paper and I squirted it out the ink or I move my arm one way in one circle with another way in another and was very careful Nazi just speculate too wildly because I didn’t want to get ink on things on the wall or any place else but in that circle, but it was a 12 foot circle so you know I have pretty good room then after that when everything dry and it took a little while to dry because it was unique and I took all of those papers and just kind of scooped them all together so that made it even more random ha ha ha ha and I went through each one and the very big ones and these head lines on them already for us so the very big notes were I copied them on a separate one as a whole note in the smaller notes the smaller the note to faster they went in any place that there wasn’t a note I went on it put a stamp on it and whatever it was appropriate where it was according note or a half note or whatever and as I went through each piece transferring what was there to another piece of music then before I knew it I had 20 pages of these notes now I didn’t go and say that each one was gonna necessarily be used because that would be less than so. I looked at them and I saw that actually it did make a pretty good piece. It didn’t sound terrific, but it sounded OK if you say that fast and don’t pay too much attention to some parts, but it did have some interesting sounds and I didn’t change them at the end of the piece. I played it again as I might change it for dynamics and things like that and then the final part I changed it even more dynamically and changed a few other things about it, but I didn’t change the pitch of the note wherever it landed on the staff is where it was put down along with the range so I didn’t actually have a bicycle in the middle of it or anything else. It started like all the other pieces of music that I had written in the upper left-hand corner and it ended somewhere on the lower right hand corner of some page. The best part was that it actually did kind of go into a form but not close enough that I could say that it was a random form and that I could call it like a Sonata Alegro or anything like that, but I did this several times and they enjoyed it every time and occasionally I did that for my project during the week just to see how good it would be, and it was never a problem because my instructor was crazy and that worked out for me. Thank you for your comments. I really appreciate it. I like wire writing and working with sound to me. Composition is sculpting in sound.