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Thirty three is the new eighteen

By laguna on January 7, 2018 11:55 pm

Hello Y'all !!! I'm so glad to be back for my fourth WB smile Lots of both new and familiar faces. The Weekly Family has gathered again!!!

This week I've prepared a half cooked downtempo track, and I can help to feel that itchy "something is missing here" sensation again. Uploaded and rendered in the last minute (that's sort of a tradition here, isn't it).

I found an old Yamaha TG33 "vector" synth for a good price, and while making my first steps into Linux Qtractor sequencer, I created the bassline and some of those mallet-ish patches you hear. About mid-week, I decided to dump everything into Ableton and start mixing, although I'd really love to be able to finish a whole project start to finish inside Linux by the end of the year.

Finishing this description just passed 1:00 o'clock here in Spain, so that means a whole world of your marvellous songs is available right now. Looking forward to hear your music.

It's really great to be here in this corner of the Internet smile

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January 8, 2018 12:06 am

Hi again Laguna! I figured you'd be back this year too big_smile

This track is really funky! The bass-line's probs my favorite part, but the jingle jangly bits that come in about 1/5th of the way through and get real jangly at the end are also really sparkly and good!

January 8, 2018 12:58 am

Your "last minute" never ceases to amaze me. I'm glad you're back again. I've learned a great deal from you in previous WB years. Peace from Oklahoma City.

January 8, 2018 1:14 am
E-dub wrote:

Your "last minute" never ceases to amaze me. I'm glad you're back again. I've learned a great deal from you in previous WB years. Peace from Oklahoma City.

Thanks for listening and your kind words Edmund! I wish I could cook an acoustic song like yours in a week (I keep getting away with silly 2 bar loops and a few minor scales) so the learning is mutual, mate smile

January 8, 2018 1:16 am
scottux wrote:

Hi again Laguna! I figured you'd be back this year too big_smile

This track is really funky! The bass-line's probs my favorite part, but the jingle jangly bits that come in about 1/5th of the way through and get real jangly at the end are also really sparkly and good!



Hey Scottux! It's great to see you again! Thanks for listening as always!

As a fellow musician, I'm sure you could relate to the "I hate this bassline" right now because it was the first thing I compose back on Monday, looping forever and ever while I figured my Linux Jack audio settings. On the other hand, most of the "sparkly" stuff was finished between Saturday and Sunday, so I wasn't even sure about the whole thing ("Does it even fits here anyway?" kinda vibe). Guess I need some perspective.

Again, thanks for my first ever 2018 comment and the positive feedback

P.S.: I previously answered your comment but I had forgotten about the whole QUOTE system... man, Im getting old smile

January 8, 2018 1:40 am

This is great, so so groovy. I feel like my song's a mess after listening to this! Looking forward to 51 more of these!

January 8, 2018 1:50 am
Sodabelly wrote:

This is great, so so groovy. I feel like my song's a mess after listening to this! Looking forward to 51 more of these!

Your song is a mess?!? I'm glad I stumbled across one miserable minor chord on the last minute for those "mallet-ish" synths while you have three different movements this week and who nows what else in your magic bag of tricks, no doubt.

Feel free to grab the beat and put some of your awesome melodic awesomeness over it. I'd be honoured.

Thanks for such nice words, man. You've been a true inspiration all these WBeats smile

January 8, 2018 1:53 am

this makes my booty twerk

January 8, 2018 1:58 am
Phil Harmonic wrote:

this makes my booty twerk

Whoah!! Cosplay twerking? Keep that comming baby!!!


January 8, 2018 2:11 am

Slanky. Well done, sir.

January 8, 2018 2:46 am

Oh yeah, Laguna. Good to hear your grooves again. This is funkay

January 8, 2018 2:53 am

Nice atmospheres. That sampled chord thing is really cool.

January 8, 2018 3:11 am

amazing percussion boss, this is wild

January 8, 2018 6:48 am

The synth reverb is giving me some hip-hop Silent Hill vibes *yeah* Can't wait for another year of music from you!  Shoutouts to the kitty in your photo smile

January 8, 2018 6:51 am

Yeahhh boiii! Really cool vibe big_smile

January 8, 2018 8:53 am

Love the bassline, really gets the groove moving. Great beat!

January 8, 2018 8:58 am
Jim Wood wrote:

Slanky. Well done, sir.

It's always great to hear back from you Jim! Thanks a lot smile

cfurrow wrote:

Oh yeah, Laguna. Good to hear your grooves again. This is funkay

Same feeling here, man. Glad to see so another familiar face for another go smile Thanks

license wrote:

Nice atmospheres. That sampled chord thing is really cool.

Well, thanks man!

I did actually played the chords but the original patch had two oscillators forming a 5th. I was looking for that "I sample whole chords" sound of the early 90s. The Yamaha TG33 is quite cheap right now (not considered "a classic piece of gear" in any way!) and it's really easy to use, so expect more "fake chords" in the future smile

Parallelis wrote:

amazing percussion boss, this is wild

Oh, man, I'm really glad you liked those drums. A whole day tweaking and layering until I got my kind of boom bap without ever using/abusing a compressor.

orangedrink wrote:

The synth reverb is giving me some hip-hop Silent Hill vibes *yeah* Can't wait for another year of music from you!  Shoutouts to the kitty in your photo smile

My dearest cat "Copo de Nieve" (snow flake) is flattered you liked his pic, so he's giving me another year of rights to use his liking and images. Now signing the Terms and Conditions with Luivo, my other cat, as his attorney. Gald to see you back, and hoping you drop some hip hop once in a while. I really enjoyed when you dropped some phat beats.

Thanks OrangeDrink. Now sending you some good vibes back:

Podling wrote:

Yeahhh boiii! Really cool vibe big_smile

You know what time it isssssss? Thanks time!


January 8, 2018 9:04 am
grillo wrote:

Love the bassline, really gets the groove moving. Great beat!

Well, to be honest, the minute I heard your track I thought "my bassline sucks and I should have gone the wonky way" smile

Anayway I'm sure you could relate to that "I've heard this phrase so many many times I almost hate it (at least for a couple of days). Coming from you, I'm flattered you dig this beat

Grazie molto


January 8, 2018 9:54 am

This is real nice man! In a few days you will like the bass again... wink

January 8, 2018 10:11 am
theGuen wrote:

This is real nice man! In a few days you will like the bass again... wink

Thanks man! I guess you're right, though I'll have to keep a strict "please not that bassline again" diet for a few days smile It's been like a zillion times listening to that loop


January 8, 2018 10:16 am

Great hiphop track. No criticism from here.

January 8, 2018 10:21 am
Q-Rosh wrote:

Great hiphop track. No criticism from here.

Best criticism is having you actively listening every week. Thanks for the constant feedback. I'm really glad you returned for another year!!!


January 8, 2018 10:27 am

makes me wanna spit faaaayaaaaaaahhh

January 8, 2018 10:34 am
laguna wrote:
theGuen wrote:

This is real nice man! In a few days you will like the bass again... wink

Thanks man! I guess you're right, though I'll have to keep a strict "please not that bassline again" diet for a few days smile It's been like a zillion times listening to that loop

Yeah I exactly know how you feelin. I don't like a lot of my beats the day after finishing cause I've heard these loops a thousand times while making, and think they are boring.
Mostly it's gone after 2 days wink

January 8, 2018 11:14 am
theGuen wrote:
laguna wrote:
theGuen wrote:

This is real nice man! In a few days you will like the bass again... wink

Thanks man! I guess you're right, though I'll have to keep a strict "please not that bassline again" diet for a few days smile It's been like a zillion times listening to that loop

Yeah I exactly know how you feelin. I don't like a lot of my beats the day after finishing cause I've heard these loops a thousand times while making, and think they are boring.
Mostly it's gone after 2 days wink

Oh yes! It's exactly that! EVERY beat from another fella sounds nicer and bouncier in this moment. Sooo bored of the same stuff. I actually keep a pretty tidy archive of old beats, and tend to revisit them after a while, chopping stuff like it wasn't mine (prefer to chop slices from the main mix than reconstructing and getting into the rabiit hole of "retouching the mix"). When it's done, I archive it in a darker cloud of my server, not completely forgotten but out of the way.

January 8, 2018 11:16 am
XC3N wrote:

makes me wanna spit faaaayaaaaaaahhh

Please do hommie!

P.S.: Pretty cool new avatar there wink


January 8, 2018 4:21 pm

Nice work!

January 8, 2018 5:12 pm

nice to be back & i'm diggin' this track! 

January 8, 2018 6:51 pm

Laguna!  Great to see you back, and a fine track as always!  At first I was thinking "This is pretty cool, though it'd be nice if there was a funky beat--" and immediately the beat slammed in, way funkier than what I was thinking. Sweet!  Digging the mallets and bassline as well, and looking forward to hearing the next things you come up with!

January 8, 2018 7:42 pm

this is great, and you've got me looking forward to more. cheers!

January 8, 2018 11:13 pm
Nouga.jr wrote:

Nice work!

Thanks and welcome to Weeklybeats! I'm glad a fellow hip hop head liked this one, though your track have waaaaaaay more swing than mine. Your basssline and wonkiness was dope smile

kaedo sevaada wrote:

nice to be back & i'm diggin' this track!

Glad to have one more returning for another year... WB is addictive!!!

3 is the magic number!

onezero wrote:

Laguna!  Great to see you back, and a fine track as always!  At first I was thinking "This is pretty cool, though it'd be nice if there was a funky beat--" and immediately the beat slammed in, way funkier than what I was thinking. Sweet!  Digging the mallets and bassline as well, and looking forward to hearing the next things you come up with!

Thank you Maurice. It's really great to be back and finding all of you guys hanging up here smile

It's nice to see you dug that funk. I'm pretty satisfied with the beat, though I still struggle with that stiff bassline smile

Let's hope we all throw some more songs. From the level I'm hearing, this one's gonna be wonderful

Tri Angles wrote:

this is great, and you've got me looking forward to more. cheers!

Same goes to you, Sir! You started the year with a great track! Please keep then coming. Thanks for listening and of course, welcome back!

January 9, 2018 4:18 am

Thank you for coming back, it just wouldn’t be the same without your hip hop beats, excited to hear what’s coming next

January 9, 2018 5:22 am

.........did you actually mean thrity instead of thirty?

January 9, 2018 5:58 am

Welcome back!  It's good to see all the familiar "avatars", especially yours!  Digging the groove of this one and that devilish bass filtering about.  I think the TG33 is the desktop version of the SY22, which has my single favorite patch everrrrrr!  Ok maybe electronic_string_patch ever.  https://youtu.be/rHGMpJITIiY?t=1m34s This probably isn't the best link to hear it, but it's basically Moby's favorite patch for Little Idiot and all of his big melodic numbers.  I bought one used years ago just for that sound (thanks to Moby).  I might have to rescue mine from the dark closet depths wink  (if i can find the power supply).  On that note, I look forward to hearing how you use the TG33 in future tracks!  PS I too suffer from the feeling of repetitive loop fatigue.  Usually I find the best way to overcome that is just take a break and realize that in time when you've had time to NOT listen and to listen to other stuff, you'll come back refreshed and realize "oh yah this is pretty damn good!" wink  pardon my long comment!

January 9, 2018 6:51 am

Tuuuunee!!! Welcome back,my friend! Looking forward to what is no doubt going to be a great year of WB!!

January 9, 2018 9:40 am
Jason Nijjer wrote:

Thank you for coming back, it just wouldn’t be the same without your hip hop beats, excited to hear what’s coming next

Thanks to you, Jason. I missed your "made on the go" stuff and as aI hear, it's seems you never cease to amaze. Hoping to grab some of your mastery on the iPad. Grald to hear from you again

orangedrink wrote:

.........did you actually mean thrity instead of thirty?

Whoah, my mistake! Thank you, my man!

Tone Matrix wrote:

Welcome back!  It's good to see all the familiar "avatars", especially yours!  Digging the groove of this one and that devilish bass filtering about.  I think the TG33 is the desktop version of the SY22, which has my single favorite patch everrrrrr!  Ok maybe electronic_string_patch ever.  https://youtu.be/rHGMpJITIiY?t=1m34s This probably isn't the best link to hear it, but it's basically Moby's favorite patch for Little Idiot and all of his big melodic numbers.  I bought one used years ago just for that sound (thanks to Moby).  I might have to rescue mine from the dark closet depths wink  (if i can find the power supply).  On that note, I look forward to hearing how you use the TG33 in future tracks!  PS I too suffer from the feeling of repetitive loop fatigue.  Usually I find the best way to overcome that is just take a break and realize that in time when you've had time to NOT listen and to listen to other stuff, you'll come back refreshed and realize "oh yah this is pretty damn good!" wink  pardon my long comment!

I missed your great epic stuff, Tone Matrix, so I had to be back, for sure !!! Really glad you returned for another year.

Yeah, the TG33 is really really close to the SY22, which I never owned. It's quite easy to program and quite limited in a way. I bought it looking for that specific "early 90s strings" sound which, yes indeed, you could hear on most of Moby's discography and specially I was looking for those "breath/panflute" waveforms because they are so characteristic.

I think it would be relatively easy to "rip" and duplicate in software. I've got a serious space proble so even a small unit like the TG33 takes most of my desktop, so in the end, if I could faithfully build a patch in Pd/Reaktor which passed an A/B comparison, maybe I would not keep it. I don't mean by that "let's multisample some patches in a couple of days and toss it into eBay". I'm planning to spend a whole year tweaking it and finding if the whole architechture of the synth could be cloned).

My same attitude goes to those iconic early nineties Roland JV romplers... are they easily ported to software?. Should I buy a cheap one and try?.

For starters, I was writing some python scripts to iterate through the whole wave back and rip every wavetable. I live between two cities right now and the TG33 would have to wait till the end of this month (stayed in my "Studio B"). That gives me time to prepare the software and ease my task, and if the results are good, I'll make the samples available so you could work your magic on them.

As you can see, I love long comments smile. Thanks for being there again!!!

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Martiln wrote:

Tuuuunee!!! Welcome back,my friend! Looking forward to what is no doubt going to be a great year of WB!!

Thank you Martiln!!! It's great to see you and all those familiar faces again !!!

I'm looking forward to hear where do you take your new developments and styles with your artful skills.

January 9, 2018 9:42 am
Tone Matrix wrote:

Welcome back!

Oh typpo mistake ...


January 9, 2018 5:29 pm

Really like the FM sparkly bits... New to your music, I'm into it.

January 9, 2018 10:37 pm
Sepha wrote:

Really like the FM sparkly bits... New to your music, I'm into it.

Well, thanks for listening and giving feedback smile

I made the patches with a combination of two sets of 2 operator FM oscilators from the Yamaha TG33 and then creating some multisamples in Qtractor to be load into Ableton Sampler. Wish I could produce increasingly complex patches from the synth itself. Let's hope I get better at it with practice.

Again, really appreciated you had a listen. Best wishes for this WB2018!!!


January 10, 2018 1:02 am

Head nodding drums and bass, plus those rapid malletty sounding. I dig this a bunch. Very groovy.

January 10, 2018 12:40 pm
hypnogram wrote:

Head nodding drums and bass, plus those rapid malletty sounding. I dig this a bunch. Very groovy.

Thanks very much! I'm learning to like that bassline again, after 1000 listens... Glad you enjoyed it and thank you again for listening!

Now in honour of my funk idols...


January 10, 2018 4:52 pm

Slinky stinky stanky sick! Percussion is spot-on. Just the right amount of looseness.

January 11, 2018 9:36 pm

Cool! Really enjoyed the track.

January 11, 2018 10:28 pm
roboctopus wrote:

Slinky stinky stanky sick! Percussion is spot-on. Just the right amount of looseness.

Hey, Roboctopus! Another familiar face around this year! I'm glad to see you again and as always, thanks for having a listen. It's nice to hear you enjoyed that beat ...

BTW "Slinky Stinky Stanky" sounds like a good song title smile

January 11, 2018 10:33 pm
Kleie wrote:

Cool! Really enjoyed the track.

Vielen Danke!!! I see you are the other side of Christian's band (he told me about his mate getting into Eurorack, and by the skills in your song, it seems you made it worth).

Please tell him he's missed around here. Hope to hear great things from you, both together and doing your own thing.


January 12, 2018 12:22 am
laguna wrote:
Tone Matrix wrote:

Welcome back!

Oh typpo mistake ...

I dunno there's something about that SY22 Full String patch that I've never heard "ripped" in the software realm.
That's the one thing I need to work on is my patch_makin_skilz.  That's why I bought my first analog synth recently to sort of force myself to expand my knowledge on real synthesis and not just "ooh i like this preset!"  But yea if you ever figure out how to emulate the Full String patch i'd definitely love to know how you did.  I know it's a pretty simple sounding string but there's something about the lower end of that patch when you hold it down for those long ambient_moby_like chords it just sounds so.... FULL smile

January 12, 2018 11:51 am
Tone Matrix wrote:
laguna wrote:
Tone Matrix wrote:

Welcome back!

Oh typpo mistake ...

I dunno there's something about that SY22 Full String patch that I've never heard "ripped" in the software realm.
That's the one thing I need to work on is my patch_makin_skilz.  That's why I bought my first analog synth recently to sort of force myself to expand my knowledge on real synthesis and not just "ooh i like this preset!"  But yea if you ever figure out how to emulate the Full String patch i'd definitely love to know how you did.  I know it's a pretty simple sounding string but there's something about the lower end of that patch when you hold it down for those long ambient_moby_like chords it just sounds so.... FULL smile


Oh, count on it! I got the unit with most of the original presets removed, and I usually erase all built in present of every unit a few days after it enters my studio. I'll dig aourng the internet to get the original patches and improve my "SYSEX dump" skills.

You'll be the first one to know smile

January 12, 2018 7:09 pm

Welcome back! great start - got me on a good head space here, boom!

January 12, 2018 10:42 pm
miraclemiles wrote:

Welcome back! great start - got me on a good head space here, boom!

Yo MiracleMiles!!! It's great to see almost all the WB classics decided to go back for another year!!!

Thank you for listening and diggin' the beat. Hope I keep up with all your good tunes smile+


January 13, 2018 9:08 pm

Good to hear your grooves again this year!

I love this ease, very successful

January 14, 2018 10:29 am
m2K7 wrote:

Good to hear your grooves again this year!

I love this ease, very successful

The pleasure is mine, so I could "grab" some inspiration from your industrial beats wink

Thanks for listening and being back for another one!!!


January 14, 2018 11:47 pm

Good to see you back, Laguna! I missed your tunes and funky beats, always a great source of inspiration. smile

January 14, 2018 11:55 pm
gify wrote:

Good to see you back, Laguna! I missed your tunes and funky beats, always a great source of inspiration. smile

Same goes to you, mate. I always liked your Renoise skills. Missing those clever uses of the Casio MT series hihats wink (trademark sound).

Also diggin' your late beat. Wish I could see your Renoise workflow and learn from a tracker master.

Thanks for dropping by and listening smile


January 16, 2018 12:41 pm

Hello, Laguna, and good luck in 2018, which is kinda present in your song title, along with 33, reminding me of a 7 inch played in a reduced speed, and here we are: in the year of downtempo, starting with a perfect and mucho absorbing track. Fred und Luna say: muchas gracias.

January 18, 2018 11:54 pm
Fred und Luna wrote:

Hello, Laguna, and good luck in 2018, which is kinda present in your song title, along with 33, reminding me of a 7 inch played in a reduced speed, and here we are: in the year of downtempo, starting with a perfect and mucho absorbing track. Fred und Luna say: muchas gracias.

Thanks a lot for those welcoming words, indeed. Vielen Danke schön !!! And glad you've got the TG(33) and 20(18) reference (I thought maybe someone would think I was talking about ages or something).

Sorry for the late reply. So many familiar faces and so much good music to be (carefully) checked smile

Hurrah for that "downtempo year" concept smile Feelings in slow motion


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