The wavetable choir voices make this somewhat mystical. I enjoyed this reworked archeology trip of yours, the beat is great. I only expected some vocals from your description and there's none!

The wavetable choir voices make this somewhat mystical. I enjoyed this reworked archeology trip of yours, the beat is great. I only expected some vocals from your description and there's none!

This sounds like something I'd check out off of 2004 netlabel I was obsessed back then. Hiphop is a interesting thing. It can be hard to get into on the creative side and in my experience requires a lot of involvement socially to connect. I had some friends that were tied to the Oakland hiphop scene that I tried to make some tracks with for a while. It never ended up happening.

Rappers and producers are almost 2 different entities sometimes. I think a lot of rappers have a pretty ridged expectations for what they can rap over. It's hard to find a good partnership for that.

This sounds like something I'd check out off of 2004 netlabel :) I was obsessed back then. Hiphop is a interesting thing. It can be hard to get into on the creative side and in my experience requires a lot of involvement socially to connect. I had some friends that were tied to the Oakland hiphop scene that I tried to make some tracks with for a while. It never ended up happening. Rappers and producers are almost 2 different entities sometimes. I think a lot of rappers have a pretty ridged expectations for what they can rap over. It's hard to find a good partnership for that.

Sorry for the late reply, Rplktr. Indeed, I loved the "wavetable choir" description you used. I remember I used to hate those late 90's ROMpler sounds until I suddenly started to miss them.

Most of the times, my "archeological interest" is because I keep a well ordered archive of unfinished projects and they saved me many weeks! It's easier to rebuild something than starting from scratch, I guess.

About the vocals, it's not that I'm so selfconcious (well, a little bit) but the lyrics were trying to be clever and somewhat funny and they were never finished, so ... I tried to drench them in delay and use them as cuts, but felt ridiculous after a while... Maybe i need some perspective?

Oh, yes! I was so into the netlabel scene. I think we all move on without noticing and when we tried to check the labels back, most of them had dissapeared, or moved to Bandcamp (cool) or Soundcloud (not cool in 2024, IMHO).

Yes, you nailed it about the rappers. I found it very difficult to "connect". No intended disrrespect but I couldn't stand the "poet of the street" thing, specially when many tried to emulate or vibe to a reality that was pretty alien to us (that is, mainstream US rap in the early 2000s). Don't get me wrong: there's awesome artistry and poetry in hiphop, but I couldn't *personally* find someone who wasn't a Wu Tang wanabee talking about "struggling in the street" while attending a private college.

And let's not forget I was into Antipop Consortium, Massive Attack or UK's Roots Manuva. All I remember back then were weird looks

[quote=rplktr]The wavetable choir voices make this somewhat mystical. I enjoyed this reworked archeology trip of yours, the beat is great. I only expected some vocals from your description and there's none![/quote] Sorry for the late reply, Rplktr. Indeed, I loved the "wavetable choir" description you used. I remember I used to hate those late 90's ROMpler sounds until I suddenly started to miss them. Most of the times, my "archeological interest" is because I keep a well ordered archive of unfinished projects and they saved me many weeks! It's easier to rebuild something than starting from scratch, I guess. About the vocals, it's not that I'm so selfconcious (well, a little bit) but the lyrics were trying to be clever and somewhat funny and they were never finished, so ... I tried to drench them in delay and use them as cuts, but felt ridiculous after a while... Maybe i need some perspective? [quote=ENC_]This sounds like something I'd check out off of 2004 netlabel :) I was obsessed back then. Hiphop is a interesting thing. It can be hard to get into on the creative side and in my experience requires a lot of involvement socially to connect. I had some friends that were tied to the Oakland hiphop scene that I tried to make some tracks with for a while. It never ended up happening. Rappers and producers are almost 2 different entities sometimes. I think a lot of rappers have a pretty ridged expectations for what they can rap over. It's hard to find a good partnership for that.[/quote] Oh, yes! I was so into the netlabel scene. I think we all move on without noticing and when we tried to check the labels back, most of them had dissapeared, or moved to Bandcamp (cool) or Soundcloud (not cool in 2024, IMHO). Yes, you nailed it about the rappers. I found it very difficult to "connect". No intended disrrespect but I couldn't stand the "poet of the street" thing, specially when many tried to emulate or vibe to a reality that was pretty alien to us (that is, mainstream US rap in the early 2000s). Don't get me wrong: there's awesome artistry and poetry in hiphop, but I couldn't *personally* find someone who wasn't a Wu Tang wanabee talking about "struggling in the street" while attending a private college. And let's not forget I was into Antipop Consortium, Massive Attack or UK's Roots Manuva. All I remember back then were weird looks :)

100000000% haha I was so sad to see a lot of the smaller ones had gone with no archival. The internet archive has bee useful for that. Soundcloud really doesn't cut it.

Haha also very true. I think back then the rap was largely dominated by the gangster rap sub genre. Mostly by people who had no meaningful experience with that life. I heard it described as kayfabe in recent times. It wasn't really until the late 2000's that things started changing from that. I feel like there is a wider variety of experiences that can be rapped about today but the kayfabe and the egos are kind of a staple of the genre.

[quote=laguna]Oh, yes! I was so into the netlabel scene. I think we all move on without noticing and when we tried to check the labels back, most of them had dissapeared, or moved to Bandcamp (cool) or Soundcloud (not cool in 2024, IMHO).[/quote] 100000000% haha I was so sad to see a lot of the smaller ones had gone with no archival. The internet archive has bee useful for that. Soundcloud really doesn't cut it. [quote=laguna]Yes, you nailed it about the rappers. I found it very difficult to "connect". No intended disrrespect but I couldn't stand the "poet of the street" thing...[/quote] Haha also very true. I think back then the rap was largely dominated by the gangster rap sub genre. Mostly by people who had no meaningful experience with that life. I heard it described as kayfabe in recent times. It wasn't really until the late 2000's that things started changing from that. I feel like there is a wider variety of experiences that can be rapped about today but the kayfabe and the egos are kind of a staple of the genre.

Slick groove and dig that key change up it takes a few times.  Def could hear an MC to this.  Sometimes you just have to meet a super unique MC who thinks outside of the box   good vibes tho

Slick groove and dig that key change up it takes a few times. Def could hear an MC to this. Sometimes you just have to meet a super unique MC who thinks outside of the box :) good vibes tho