Brilliant.

Brilliant.

What are your thoughts on how the origins of this sample have a weighting on your compositional process i.e. if you used a different 5ms sample - and you had heard the full sample to begin with - how different would the piece have sounded?

What are your thoughts on how the origins of this sample have a weighting on your compositional process i.e. if you used a different 5ms sample - and you had heard the full sample to begin with - how different would the piece have sounded?

That's pretty deep. What are the sine waves made with?  Are you using a tone gen unit?!

That's pretty deep. What are the sine waves made with? Are you using a tone gen unit?!

I think in some cases, after so much manipulation, although using a different sample would have sounded slightly different, the sample itself loses value, or becomes irrelevant to a point. Depends on the piece I guess. What do you think??

I think in some cases, after so much manipulation, although using a different sample would have sounded slightly different, the sample itself loses value, or becomes irrelevant to a point. Depends on the piece I guess. What do you think??

@ctrix: sinewaves made with Max/MSP.

@ctrix: sinewaves made with Max/MSP.

Sure, the sample material itself loses value with the amount of manipulation -I absolutely agree - but I guess I mean more like: your mind knows the original context of where that sample comes from, and then (to some degree maybe?) there is a subconscious connection made between that origin and the outcome. Just something I've thought about when doing 24hr sessions based on just one sample.

Sure, the sample material itself loses value with the amount of manipulation -I absolutely agree - but I guess I mean more like: your mind knows the original context of where that sample comes from, and then (to some degree maybe?) there is a subconscious connection made between that origin and the outcome. Just something I've thought about when doing 24hr sessions based on just one sample.

Awesome, again. Gotta disagree with the value loss of material through manipulation, though. I think that part of the compositional process (for me, at any rate) is to find out what the material needs, and basically milk it for all it's worth. Anyway, philosophy aside, this is a really lovely composition.

Awesome, again. Gotta disagree with the value loss of material through manipulation, though. I think that part of the compositional process (for me, at any rate) is to find out what the material needs, and basically milk it for all it's worth. Anyway, philosophy aside, this is a really lovely composition.

To clarify - I think it also depends on the type and amount of processing that is done.

To clarify - I think it also depends on the type and amount of processing that is done.

But doesn't the value then come from the process, so the original value becomes augmented rather than diminished, by the process(es) of manipulation?

But doesn't the value then come from the process, so the original value becomes augmented rather than diminished, by the process(es) of manipulation?

And the initial length of sample we are talking about (5ms @ 441000 samples per second is about 221 samples, which is less than half the number of samples that Max/MSP uses for waveform buffers for the cycle~ object, for example).

And the initial length of sample we are talking about (5ms @ 441000 samples per second is about 221 samples, which is less than half the number of samples that Max/MSP uses for waveform buffers for the cycle~ object, for example).

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I dig it 

I dig it :D

I agree with little-scale on this one, and since the number of samples is so low, to me they are almost negligable in themselves.
Being a hypocrite, i'm going to admit that i can at some points hear the original soubds.

I'm not quite sure i understand what you mean by ur last comment vinpous(:

I agree with little-scale on this one, and since the number of samples is so low, to me they are almost negligable in themselves. Being a hypocrite, i'm going to admit that i can at some points hear the original soubds. I'm not quite sure i understand what you mean by ur last comment vinpous(:

Such a hypocrite :3

Such a hypocrite :3

Woo go MSP. Interesting concept. I dig it.

Woo go MSP. Interesting concept. I dig it.

Sorry Iran, I just think that any material subjected to human creativity and thought cannot possibly lose value for being transformed. I'd say it gains value, or at least morphs its value into something else, also of value! Hope that clarifies.

Sorry Iran, I just think that any material subjected to human creativity and thought cannot possibly lose value for being transformed. I'd say it gains value, or at least morphs its value into something else, also of value! Hope that clarifies. :)

vinpous - absolutely agreed re: morphing and changing into something else with gained value!

vinpous - absolutely agreed re: morphing and changing into something else with gained value!

Cool.

Cool.