Who loads a camel when the camel's standing up? Any idea how tall those fuckers are?

Exactly! I don't use the cake thing. I just say exactly that: "you can't have it both ways."

well then just say.. "you cant have it both ways", or "he thought he could have it both ways." No muss, no fuss (whatever the hell that means).

But then my intention would be to give it to someone else and not eat it. Or to eat half and give half. I dunno, I'm not convinced it's a sound analogy (poetic or not) for anything at all.

well. you might give it to someone else you greedy bastard but you cant give it to someone else and eat it.

Of course you can't. The analogy falls apart with the implication that the purpose of cake is indeed to NOT eat it. What the hell else am I going to do with a cake?

dunno. it makes sense to me.. you cant eat your slice of cake twice. er well, maybe you can, but it wont look anything like cake.

It makes no sense. I did read that (see OP).

anyways.. it's all right here..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Having_your_cake_and_eating_it_too  it does actually make sense.

It's a terrible metaphor really. The whole purpose of cake is to eat (or, as Nathan points out, to decorate). I imagine an ornamental cake would start to smell bad after a couple of months.

Poetics are fine, but some grounding in reality would be nice, like your junk analogy.

Best analogy.

um. obviously the cake is a lie

The one that confuses me is "the straw that broke the camel's back". I mean, chances are that a load that heavy would've slid off the camel's back to the side. It at least would've broken the camel's legs. And, if the load on that camel is so heavy that it has 4 broken legs, motionless on the ground, waiting for a straw to break its back, then, there are several problems. The load is useless on the back of the camel as there is no way that the camel can move it. If there is that little difference between the breaking of the camel's back, then who cares about the straw, the camel probably would've broken it himself. If there is that much weight on the camel's back, chances are that his ribs and internal organs are crushed, and he is already dead, meaning that the straw is just superfluous. That one is just stupid in my opinion.
Also, supporting camel cruelty is wrong.

sounds like you're...a gluten for punishment.

i'll see myself out.

When you're gluten free, this happens all the time.