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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for all your time writing this out.&nbsp; I&#039;m going to have to sit with a drum machine/drum kit and try punching all these out.</p><p><a class="postimg" href="https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0BKmtQGLbumr5RCM/source.gif" title="https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0BKmtQGLbumr5RCM/source.gif" id="forum_image_59891643"><img src="https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0BKmtQGLbumr5RCM/source.gif" /></a></p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trying to find information about a rhythm change method...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>orangedrink wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>lololololol</p><p>I love that answer, thank you <img src="https://weeklybeats.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Are there other terms?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, simply changing time signature isn&#039;t necessarily metric modulation. Metric modulation is changing between tempo and/or time signature where one fundamental pulse becomes a new, different, fundamental pulse. For example: an 8th note duplet becomes an 8th note triplet (1.5x faster, approximately) and that triplet then becomes the new 8th note duplet at a new tempo that is 1.5x faster than the original. Shifting from 4/4 to 3/4 at the same tempo isn&#039;t really something that needs/is metric modulation, because it is just losing (or gaining) a quarter-note impulse, but if you&#039;re really adhering to the difference in &quot;feel&quot; (few people actually do this), then adding the &quot;feel&quot; of one or the other by a technique such as polymetre, or polyrhythm, facilitates the change. So there are different metric devices that facilitate different types of changes in different ways. Hence my vague answer. <img src="https://weeklybeats.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-08-11T23:52:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trying to find information about a rhythm change method...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>lololololol</p><p>I love that answer, thank you <img src="https://weeklybeats.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Are there other terms?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-08-11T18:55:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trying to find information about a rhythm change method...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>orangedrink wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>fc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It depends on what you want to do in your transition. 3/4 and 4/4 are not very different from one another, unlike 6/8 and 4/4 or 6/8 and 3/4. A transition from 3/4 to 4/4 should work reasonably seamlessly without any fancy devices, as you&#039;re kind of just adding or subtracting a beat. But if you wanted to make the transition a little more fluid, you can superimpose one on the other for a short period before the change.</p><p>For the following, S = strong, W = weak (referring to the beat strength. SS will mean secondary-strong. </p><p>In 3/4, your pulse pattern is: S W W | S W W | S W W | etc. (counting ONE two three | ONE two three)</p><p>In 4/4 your pulse pattern is: S W SS W |S W SS W | S W SS W| etc. (counting ONE two THREE four | ONE two THREE four).</p><p>Ok so for a 3/4 you might have a pulse pattern: S W W | S W W | etc. and you might want to move it into 4/4, so you would introduce the 4/4 pulse pattern against the 3/4 pulse pattern, say, in one instrument.</p><p>I1 3/4|| S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | 4/4 S W SS W | S W SS W | etc.</p><p>I2 3/4|| S W W | S W W | S W W | S W SS | W S W | SS W S | 4/4 S W SS W | S W SS W| etc.</p><p>In that example, instrument 2 introduces the &quot;polymetre&quot; of 4/4 against 3/4 facilitating a slightly smoother move into 4/4. </p><p>Notice that in the final bar before the 4/4 change there will be a &quot;double accent&quot; where the final strong pulse of the 3/4 has a new downbeat in 4/4. To get around this you simply disregard that beat structure a bit (I.e SS W W | 4/4 S W SS W) or make the transition long enough to have the full length of 3:4 (12 beats). </p><p>There are other ways to do this, but that is one of the easier ones. Is that what you are after?</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for this!&nbsp; I got an update - is the term I&#039;m looking for &quot;metric modulation&quot; ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Short answer is &quot;yes&quot;, long answer is: &quot;kinda&quot;. <img src="https://weeklybeats.com/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-08-10T08:20:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Trying to find information about a rhythm change method...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It depends on what you want to do in your transition. 3/4 and 4/4 are not very different from one another, unlike 6/8 and 4/4 or 6/8 and 3/4. A transition from 3/4 to 4/4 should work reasonably seamlessly without any fancy devices, as you&#039;re kind of just adding or subtracting a beat. But if you wanted to make the transition a little more fluid, you can superimpose one on the other for a short period before the change.</p><p>For the following, S = strong, W = weak (referring to the beat strength. SS will mean secondary-strong. </p><p>In 3/4, your pulse pattern is: S W W | S W W | S W W | etc. (counting ONE two three | ONE two three)</p><p>In 4/4 your pulse pattern is: S W SS W |S W SS W | S W SS W| etc. (counting ONE two THREE four | ONE two THREE four).</p><p>Ok so for a 3/4 you might have a pulse pattern: S W W | S W W | etc. and you might want to move it into 4/4, so you would introduce the 4/4 pulse pattern against the 3/4 pulse pattern, say, in one instrument.</p><p>I1 3/4|| S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | 4/4 S W SS W | S W SS W | etc.</p><p>I2 3/4|| S W W | S W W | S W W | S W SS | W S W | SS W S | 4/4 S W SS W | S W SS W| etc.</p><p>In that example, instrument 2 introduces the &quot;polymetre&quot; of 4/4 against 3/4 facilitating a slightly smoother move into 4/4. </p><p>Notice that in the final bar before the 4/4 change there will be a &quot;double accent&quot; where the final strong pulse of the 3/4 has a new downbeat in 4/4. To get around this you simply disregard that beat structure a bit (I.e SS W W | 4/4 S W SS W) or make the transition long enough to have the full length of 3:4 (12 beats). </p><p>There are other ways to do this, but that is one of the easier ones. Is that what you are after?</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for this!&nbsp; I got an update - is the term I&#039;m looking for &quot;metric modulation&quot; ?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-08-08T20:44:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It depends on what you want to do in your transition. 3/4 and 4/4 are not very different from one another, unlike 6/8 and 4/4 or 6/8 and 3/4. A transition from 3/4 to 4/4 should work reasonably seamlessly without any fancy devices, as you&#039;re kind of just adding or subtracting a beat. But if you wanted to make the transition a little more fluid, you can superimpose one on the other for a short period before the change.</p><p>For the following, S = strong, W = weak (referring to the beat strength. SS will mean secondary-strong. </p><p>In 3/4, your pulse pattern is: S W W | S W W | S W W | etc. (counting ONE two three | ONE two three)</p><p>In 4/4 your pulse pattern is: S W SS W |S W SS W | S W SS W| etc. (counting ONE two THREE four | ONE two THREE four).</p><p>Ok so for a 3/4 you might have a pulse pattern: S W W | S W W | etc. and you might want to move it into 4/4, so you would introduce the 4/4 pulse pattern against the 3/4 pulse pattern, say, in one instrument.</p><p>I1 3/4|| S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | S W W | 4/4 S W SS W | S W SS W | etc.</p><p>I2 3/4|| S W W | S W W | S W W | S W SS | W S W | SS W S | 4/4 S W SS W | S W SS W| etc.</p><p>In that example, instrument 2 introduces the &quot;polymetre&quot; of 4/4 against 3/4 facilitating a slightly smoother move into 4/4. </p><p>Notice that in the final bar before the 4/4 change there will be a &quot;double accent&quot; where the final strong pulse of the 3/4 has a new downbeat in 4/4. To get around this you simply disregard that beat structure a bit (I.e SS W W | 4/4 S W SS W) or make the transition long enough to have the full length of 3:4 (12 beats). </p><p>There are other ways to do this, but that is one of the easier ones. Is that what you are after?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-07-19T03:13:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I can&#039;t help with the comment search, but I can possibly answer questions you may have about that rough area, if helpful?</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you!</p><p>I think it is something like a Hemiola (<a href="https://douglasniedt.com/hemiola.html" target="_blank">https://douglasniedt.com/hemiola.html</a>)</p><p>But it was about 3/4 into 4/4</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-07-19T00:48:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t help with the comment search, but I can possibly answer questions you may have about that rough area, if helpful?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-07-15T02:23:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A couple years ago, I left a comment on someone&#039;s track, and they explained a rhythmic technique to me.&nbsp; I unfortunately cannot find where I saved this information!&nbsp; Maybe someone can read my vague description and help me out?</p><br /><p>I THINK it was something about moving a piece from 3/4 to 4/4 in a rather seamless way.&nbsp; Something about putting an accent on one rhythm so it would change over &quot;in time&quot;</p><br /><p>That&#039;s all I got - thanks in advance <img src="https://weeklybeats.com/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-07-13T20:04:11Z</updated>
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