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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>To add to the topic. I think what was meant by &quot;Complete&quot; is from the listener&#039;s perspective- not the artist&#039;s (It&#039;s never truly complete is it?). <br />IE: The uploaded track does not cutoff midway through the song- with your added text saying that you are still working on it. <img src="https://weeklybeats.com/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>faq wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The submission should be over minute long, but this rule is flexible. Just be sure your composition is complete and not just a snippet or a work in progress.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Trash80]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-20T21:15:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>part of my goals for this weeklybeats thing is to write songs and not try to get them &quot;perfect.&quot; i usually spend a long time on fine tuning. so my submission so far have really been different in that they are certainly not over-produced or overthought. i agree that having the weekly &quot;pressure&quot; is probably good for that (if you&#039;re into that kind of thing of course). </p><p>personally, i feel like there&#039;s usually a &quot;core&quot; that needs to be articulated for me to be happy with the product. that may sound like utter crap to others - like y&#039;all said before, it&#039;s highly personal.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[colorful grey]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-20T17:49:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you take the demoscene approach concerning finishing tracks you could well be done in under 45 seconds. Loop loop. Although making a decent arrangement sounds more fair to me, but I guess each his own.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xyce]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-20T07:57:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It should be easy enough, I think. The average amount of time I spend on my songs is an hour.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Brett Marchand]]></name>
				<uri>https://weeklybeats.com/brett+marchand</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-20T04:04:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>probably more so you dont just get people uploading a loop they created</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JoshNation]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-18T14:44:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In your heart you will know that it is complete.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[little-scale]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-05T21:50:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>mine&#039;s not quite noise</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[infradead]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-05T20:17:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>an0va wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>oh man, i hope there&#039;s no production quality standard. my mixes are whaaaack</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope. Go and listen some of 2012 stuff. There is lot stuff that sounds like it&#039;s done in one hour jam. Lot&#039;s of lofi stuff and distortion. My first track will be from another planet with zero distortion and actual melody <img src="https://weeklybeats.com/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BOULDER D4SH]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-05T20:04:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Derris-Kharlan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The rules do not state that a track has to be well produced - just that it has to be &quot;complete&quot;. </p><p>&quot;Complete&quot; is a very subjective term. However I would probably suggest that it should be treated as you not having anything more you think should be added to/changed about the piece of music.</p></blockquote></div><p>I know it&#039;s a subjective term but I&#039;m saying it should be discussed because it&#039;s probably a term they should remove from their &quot;requirements&quot; or description because A) People will ignore it - like me B) Some less certain musicians will be intimidated by it or C) It will have an unexpected influence on the _style_ of the music.</p><p>I think it&#039;s a matter that should be discussed because it&#039;s an interesting challenge in any artist&#039;s career (Rhetorically speaking, what is a complete song to you?) but I don&#039;t think it should be included in the requirements for the reasons I list above.&nbsp; I&#039;m not suggesting I&#039;m confused by it.&nbsp; I&#039;m suggesting it poses those other issues.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Estevan Carlos Benson]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-05T18:23:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>fun fun fun +1</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mark]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-04T10:25:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t get hung up on semantics. You&#039;ll find events like these in all sorts of artistic field - 48-hour film challenges, game jams, or even comedy improv sessions. No one expects perfectionism. Rather, it&#039;s about fueling creativity and dedication.</p><p>For some, this will give them a huge library of ideas for inspiration later, like an illustrator&#039;s sketchbook. For people such as myself, this is a seriously needed kick in the pants to set aside perfectionism and actually finish something. Oh, and let&#039;s not forget fun.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[UndeadAreGo]]></name>
				<uri>https://weeklybeats.com/undeadarego</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-03T18:06:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The term &quot;Tracks should be complete&quot; is 100% objective and impossible to monitor.</p><p>One mans complete track may be another mans rough palette.</p><p>For instance there are famous &quot;tracks&quot; one of which is over 4 minutes long and its complete silence.</p><p>Seems like a strange &quot;rule&quot; to me is all i am saying, better off spending your time worrying about other stuff like copyright.</p><p>Mark</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mark]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-03T12:08:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Haha, yeah but once you do a track a week for a year your mixes will be awesome by the end!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tiasu]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-02T04:55:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>oh man, i hope there&#039;s no production quality standard. my mixes are whaaaack</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[an0va]]></name>
				<uri>https://weeklybeats.com/an0va</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-01T07:13:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Expectations for completed songs is surprising]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>its very subjective.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[infradead]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-01T01:43:34Z</updated>
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