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Shadow

By fetalface on May 22, 2020 7:26 am

Kind of cheating since the bits of this song have been floating around for a year give or take. But this is the first satisfactory recording so thank you for listening! The parts were recorded live through delay pedals. Any advice for fixing the vocal noise floor??

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May 25, 2020 12:57 am

that delay has a great effect

(trying to google "noise floor" but not really understanding)

May 25, 2020 12:55 pm


(trying to google "noise floor" but not really understanding)[/quote]

ok so after asking advice on this - i realize i struggle with this a lot in my mixes as i record with the laptop built in mic - so a way to fix that would be for me to use a direct imput and plug a nice mic into that, i've tried to mess with noise gates & that never seems to really help - i'm learning that high pass filters can help but have had mixed results in garage band with this - not sure what your workin' with...

for this weeks beat - i used a trick that sometimes works for me - the vocal track was noisy & i couldn't turn it up much/it was peaking out when i tried to so i copied the vocal track and left the track with the noise but nice effect in the mix as far as i could push it - then i took the effect off the 2nd track & was able to push the volume more using a different reverb etc.- i did put vocal compression on both tracks & used a limiter (i don't understand why that helps but it sometimes does)

May 27, 2020 9:50 pm
kaedo sevaada wrote:


(trying to google "noise floor" but not really understanding)

ok so after asking advice on this - i realize i struggle with this a lot in my mixes as i record with the laptop built in mic - so a way to fix that would be for me to use a direct imput and plug a nice mic into that, i've tried to mess with noise gates & that never seems to really help - i'm learning that high pass filters can help but have had mixed results in garage band with this - not sure what your workin' with...

for this weeks beat - i used a trick that sometimes works for me - the vocal track was noisy & i couldn't turn it up much/it was peaking out when i tried to so i copied the vocal track and left the track with the noise but nice effect in the mix as far as i could push it - then i took the effect off the 2nd track & was able to push the volume more using a different reverb etc.- i did put vocal compression on both tracks & used a limiter (i don't understand why that helps but it sometimes does)

I think you are hitting on the key issue in your last sentence.  A compressor/limiter can fix the dynamics or make it worse.  Limiting will avoid any of the boosted frequencies from getting so loud that they clip and and cause distortion or noise.  Compression helps raise and average levels so quite tracks get boosted in relation to the louder tracks.  It can also raise the noise floor if not used properly.  You would need to play with the settings and apply some EQ filtering to try and eliminate hiss or rumble frequencies that are not wanted.

I struggle with it as well. Sometimes I get lucky smile

May 27, 2020 9:52 pm

Very cool track.  Vocals sound great and I'm not really picking up on any noise.  Nice big sound all around with a bit of a mystical feel.  Nice work!

May 28, 2020 12:03 am
NWSPR wrote:

Very cool track.  Vocals sound great and I'm not really picking up on any noise.  Nice big sound all around with a bit of a mystical feel.  Nice work!


That was a great explanation - thank you!  Also I wasn't hearing any noise on the vocals either.

June 8, 2020 7:54 pm
kaedo sevaada wrote:


(trying to google "noise floor" but not really understanding)

ok so after asking advice on this - i realize i struggle with this a lot in my mixes as i record with the laptop built in mic - so a way to fix that would be for me to use a direct imput and plug a nice mic into that, i've tried to mess with noise gates & that never seems to really help - i'm learning that high pass filters can help but have had mixed results in garage band with this - not sure what your workin' with...

for this weeks beat - i used a trick that sometimes works for me - the vocal track was noisy & i couldn't turn it up much/it was peaking out when i tried to so i copied the vocal track and left the track with the noise but nice effect in the mix as far as i could push it - then i took the effect off the 2nd track & was able to push the volume more using a different reverb etc.- i did put vocal compression on both tracks & used a limiter (i don't understand why that helps but it sometimes does)


thank you for sharing your tips! I'll definitely get around to trying them at some point. I never seem to leave sufficient time on these WB for mixing and mastering, right now especially. I love all of your tracks so much!

June 8, 2020 8:24 pm
fetalface wrote:
kaedo sevaada wrote:


(trying to google "noise floor" but not really understanding)

ok so after asking advice on this - i realize i struggle with this a lot in my mixes as i record with the laptop built in mic - so a way to fix that would be for me to use a direct imput and plug a nice mic into that, i've tried to mess with noise gates & that never seems to really help - i'm learning that high pass filters can help but have had mixed results in garage band with this - not sure what your workin' with...

for this weeks beat - i used a trick that sometimes works for me - the vocal track was noisy & i couldn't turn it up much/it was peaking out when i tried to so i copied the vocal track and left the track with the noise but nice effect in the mix as far as i could push it - then i took the effect off the 2nd track & was able to push the volume more using a different reverb etc.- i did put vocal compression on both tracks & used a limiter (i don't understand why that helps but it sometimes does)


thank you for sharing your tips! I'll definitely get around to trying them at some point. I never seem to leave sufficient time on these WB for mixing and mastering, right now especially. I love all of your tracks so much!


your mixes sound great & thank you so much! 



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