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The Void (Roland MT120 General MIDI)

By cTrix on January 30, 2024 1:29 am

Played off the internal floppy drive of the MT120.  This device is kinda like an early Sound Canvas?  It was designed to sit atop of a digital piano in 1991 so you could record your jams.  I couldn't get it to respond to any sysEX which is ashame, because I really wanted to tweak some of the sounds!  But they are just all the classic Roland GM presets.

Of course, instead of playing a piano into it, today we are arranging a tune in Reaper and exporting the MIDI file to the floppy!   I had a lot of trouble with this and found I had to run it though Cubase on the Atari for the MIDI file to work.  There was also a few polyphony issues where some of the sounds are internally-stacked and take up multiple poly spots!  It was recorded in two sweeps with the internal track mute buttons on front (drums on R, Bass ended on track 4, and everything else seemed clumped on track 2).  Bass and drums were recorded in one hit, and the "everything else" in the second run.  I had a few issues with "stuck notes" in the lead lines, so there were a few restarts to fix that!

This is a re-arrangement of a song I wrote in 2019 for a 64k demo which never got finished - so originally it had a lot of repetition in the drums and bass so it'd compress well in the demo.   I might develop the bassline and drums more for another version in the future.  I could not get the unit to respond to channel monophonic mode... nor turn on portmento - both of which were quite essential for the bass and solo lead (!)   TBH, I'll probably rework this tune for the Roland U-220 in the future as the 28-voice polyphony on the MT120 and slightly underpowered sequencer is just slightly too limiting for a tune like this.

Anyhoo enjoy some prog synth chaos!

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at this point i'm starting to believe that you could make a banger like this oneon an old rice cooker or something

JAM! So glad you were able to work around the issues to deliver this banger, such a nostalgic sound!

God this sounds gorgeous!

WHAT A SICK BASS TONE. How did you get that one? I love it! This meshes well with the 80s drums and synth. Great progression of the track. Woodblock and Synth questions/answers duel! This track is fire and takes us through quite a lot of different stages. How long does a track like this take you? Really inspiring.

Incredible. How do you write such progressions? That's true mastery!
The tones are splendid of course. But I can't believe my ears when I ear how this develops. I was working while listening week 5 and had to pause what I was doing at 6' thinking: "how super cool is what I'm listening to?".

GOAT!

You're telling me you made this on a FLOPPY?! That you put into a machine that's almost as old as I am? Using PRESETS? Are you kidding me? This is fantastic, I'm blown away.

love the super classic Roland sound!!

I swear that used that synth sound at ~2:30 in secret of mana. so good

Awesome track!  I just watched 8-bit Manshed do a repair on a Roland MT120, super cool to hear someone put one through it's paces. 

Oh man I love that tone! I used to have a old Yamaha QY-70. Very similar old tones. This turned out really great. It makes me want to dig up the 1980s Casio keyboard my grandma has! It's just collecting dust in a back room.

Oof, that brings memories of mid-90s soundfonts and MT-32 ... That bass is quite beefy for what I remember it being!

Stellar arrangement, which is doubly impressive given the duration. That's some serious work you put into this. I appreciate you going through the trouble of playing this through the MT-120 sequencer when I presume it would have been easier to sequence it via MIDI. Sounds great!

SIDEEYEmusic wrote:

at this point i'm starting to believe that you could make a banger like this oneon an old rice cooker or something

Hahahaha. Challenge accepted!


DonutShoes wrote:

JAM! So glad you were able to work around the issues to deliver this banger, such a nostalgic sound!

It's a fun one!

Kedbreak136 wrote:

WHAT A SICK BASS TONE. How did you get that one? I love it! This meshes well with the 80s drums and synth. Great progression of the track. Woodblock and Synth questions/answers duel! This track is fire and takes us through quite a lot of different stages. How long does a track like this take you? Really inspiring.

About 12 hours work on this one.


Tristan Baldi wrote:

Incredible. How do you write such progressions? That's true mastery!
The tones are splendid of course. But I can't believe my ears when I ear how this develops. I was working while listening week 5 and had to pause what I was doing at 6' thinking: "how super cool is what I'm listening to?".
GOAT!

Cheers mate!  I don't know how I make melodies or progressions.  Someone once started theoretically breaking down my minor / major interplay and apparently I mode shift in some crazy working with 4ths relationship or something something.    What I do know is all the best and most wild stuff comes between 2am - 5am in the morning.


sansashark wrote:

You're telling me you made this on a FLOPPY?! That you put into a machine that's almost as old as I am? Using PRESETS? Are you kidding me? This is fantastic, I'm blown away.

Yup.  In fact there is an entire set of 80 minutes on that floppy disk!  Check it out live at the Lovebyte demoparty stream I think at Satuday before the compos around 6pm ... https://lovebyte.party/#Timetable 


defensem3ch wrote:

love the super classic Roland sound!!


SOunds like nothing else hey!


mwmwmw wrote:

I swear that used that synth sound at ~2:30 in secret of mana. so good


Almost certainly.


Napear wrote:

Awesome track!  I just watched 8-bit Manshed do a repair on a Roland MT120, super cool to hear someone put one through it's paces.

Mine was $40 off ebay set to MIDI receive only mode, flipped it to internal player and ran a head cleaner though the drive and it came good!


Pop Tronics wrote:

Oh man I love that tone! I used to have a old Yamaha QY-70. Very similar old tones. This turned out really great. It makes me want to dig up the 1980s Casio keyboard my grandma has! It's just collecting dust in a back room.

I love my QY70.  Might have to bring it out!  It's 8 years newer though - and it's amazing what 8 years of technology added.  64 true note poly (vs. 28) plus extra sounds and filters on every channel.  That thing is a beast.


rplktr wrote:

Oof, that brings memories of mid-90s soundfonts and MT-32 ... That bass is quite beefy for what I remember it being!

Stellar arrangement, which is doubly impressive given the duration. That's some serious work you put into this. I appreciate you going through the trouble of playing this through the MT-120 sequencer when I presume it would have been easier to sequence it via MIDI. Sounds great!

It was a lot of hours, yup.  Getting the MID file to work was odd yeah.  I'm not sure why the Roland is so fussy.  The Yamaha I have, which is actually older, is less fussy.  Who knows!!  I did run the master mix via a maxxBass plugin and run it via iZotope mastering suite.  It's not quite as banging without a little magic.  But close....


Cheers for feedback peeps!!

This is epic! Love the general midi sounds! comes together so well!

killer!! I feel transported in time

Super clean, flows and progs great especially the floot solo!  makes me look forward to the next debuglive youtuebz episode yeeeeaarrrgh

This sounds gloriously delicious and old-school. Cutos on committing to the project and finding a way to get your reaper project to run in the old device, seems like it was quite a pain! Awesome composition too, this is super fun!

this is great, that bass sound is so iconic

All hail the General! Such a MIDIcore vibe, whatever that means wink

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